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Old 08-18-2008, 06:18 PM   #1
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Is it a mantis ???


I am cycling my new tank and have recently added the live rock so i haven't added any livestock yet however occasionally i can hear a clicking noise usually 2 or 3 clicks at a time then it goes quiet for a while. I just wondered if this rate of clicking indicates a mantis or pistol shrimp and the best ways to catch them.

I have tried turning out all the lights and waiting an hour in the dark and when i hear a click i investigate with a torch but to no avail.

My salt level is a bit high at the moment at about 1.032 is this sufficient to p!ss him off and expose him or do they tolerate these high salt levels.

I would prefer not to kill him as i don't like doing this but i cant risk a mantis in my tank killing other livestock when i add them and apart from chemicals i cant think of a safe way to get rid of him other than through high salt levels, oh the temp is at 25.8 so could lowering the temp help draw him out.
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Old 08-18-2008, 07:10 PM   #2
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Welcome to TRT! It's probably a pistol shrimp if you hear the clicking. I've never had one, bit I think they're usually the culprits of clicking sounds. I don't think the high salinity or temp is really going to do too much for it, hopefully some folks have some catching tricks. Worst case is you could dose some interceptor (dog heartworm medication) which will wipe out all crustaceans in the tank.
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Old 08-18-2008, 09:43 PM   #3
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I agree with the pistol shrimp. I just sited mine for the first time after hearing it for a while. I wouldn't worry about trying to get it out unless you can't stand the clicking. The hitchhiker ones normally stay pretty small, and feed on bristleworms and the like. I would just let it be.
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Old 08-19-2008, 04:29 AM   #4
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Thanks guy's i will continue to look out for it as i am cycling the tank and maybe try to set up a camera to record that i can play back at a later stage. As i am new to the hobby i would prefer to start with an empty tank but if you guys do believe it is more likely to be a harmless pistol shrimp then i'm sure i can live with it as long as it keeps away from any fish or corals.

Are there anymore definitive symptons of having either of these just so i can be sure it is a pistol.
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Old 08-21-2008, 08:15 AM   #5
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IMHO, a series of click are indicative of a mantis.
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Old 10-16-2008, 02:23 PM   #6
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if you start seein new aquascaping and holes in rocks that werent there before, it might be a mantis.

if snails start dissapearing, it might be a mantis.

if you see 2 lil "#5's Alive" eyeballs googling at ya, it might be a mantis
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Old 10-16-2008, 06:47 PM   #7
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Beelzebob is correct.


I placed a mantis in my old tank's refugium and there was the clicking patterns and then the holes in the rock. I have witnessed the mantis (peacock mantis shrimp) lean back then smash his/her appendage into the rock. He/she was literally pounding out a cave to live in.

The clicking maybe a pistol shrimp but that pattern you indicate sounds like a mantis. Pistol shrimp tend to make a louder, cracking sound that sounds more like glass cracking than just the clicking. In any case, it is rare but possible for a mantis to stow onto live rock.

Assuming you have a mantis; try to isolate which rock or area of rock the sounds maybe be coming from, check for larger holes as well and carefully remove them to an appropriate container (wear aquarium gloves). From there you can use a long thin piece of plastic to pierce the holes and dump the mantis out. Stowaways are usually very small and are more opportunistic than fierce hunters like the older, larger ones. Still, you are better off playing it safe and wearing good gloves. A stow away would probably be more than satisfied eating what you provide rather than killing livestock but why take a chance. You could also try trapping but mantis shrimp tend to be notoriously difficult to trap.

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Or....just keep it as a pet!
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Old 10-16-2008, 10:17 PM   #9
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I caught pistol shrimp by putting a PVC 90 with a 3" piece of PVC out each end in the sand near where he was hanging out. Placed a bit of food in the PVC each night. Soon he moved in. When I was ready to move him, I simply picked up the PVC and moved it to another tank.
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