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Old 07-25-2012, 01:12 PM   #1
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Equipment for a 280 gallon tank


I have taken the plunge. After having my 90 gallon set up for a year, I am out of room for fish and coral. My dream tank was three sided starphire 84 long 36 deep 24 tall. After getting quotes from several companies ranging from $3,100 to $5,000, I came across a used tank that is three sided starphire 84x32x24. For a savings of over $2,000 I can live without 4 inches of depth. I will be picking up the tank soon. Since all of my equipment is for a 90, I will need to upgrade basicaly everything.
The tank is predrilled for a closed loop (two holes on the bottom) but I will probably wind up adding four more holes.
I am looking for reccomendations for pumps (both closed loop and return), skimmer, power heads, and lights to run this tank. This is going to be an SPS dominated reef. But I plan on putting quite a bit of live rock in a seperate sump to free up some swimming space for the fish.
Any input would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:13 PM   #2
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Nice size tank look forward to seeing it up and running.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:16 PM   #3
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Id love a tank like that!!! What's in the stocking list?
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:29 PM   #4
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I love Tangs, anthias, and wrasses, but the only fish on my "have to have" list is a crosshatch trigger. I am thinking of:

Crosshatch Trigger
Sohal Tang
*Sailfin Tang
*Yellow Tang
Purple Tang
Powder Brown Tang
*(3)Lyretail Anthias x7
*(1)Bartlett Anthais x 5
Sunburst Anthia x2
*Hoven's Wrasse
Leopard Wrasse
Cleaner Wrasse
Carpenter's Flasher Wrasse
*Green Mandarin
*Bangai Cardinal

*fish that I currently have in my 90
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:31 PM   #5
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Make me sad with no blue hippo tang haha no that looks like a cool list some nice Colors there too. Can I recommend you not get a powder brown tang? It has such a poor survival rate its not worth it, also can I recommend that you keep more then one cardinal? They do best in small groups
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:36 PM   #6
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Nice size tank look forward to seeing it up and running.
Me too. Unfortunately I leave town for two weeks starting Friday, and upon my return I am getting married. I don't want to have to listen to "You made me go pick up a fish tank for our Honeymoon" for 40 years, so I won't even be able to pick up the tank until the begining of September. It gives me plenty of time to get everything planed out.
For now all I can do is stare at the pictures of the tank that the seller sent me.
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Old 07-25-2012, 07:40 PM   #7
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Make me sad with no blue hippo tang haha no that looks like a cool list some nice Colors there too. Can I recommend you not get a powder brown tang? It has such a poor survival rate its not worth it, also can I recommend that you keep more then one cardinal? They do best in small groups
I love the Regals. The reason i kept them off of the list was because of health issues. I know the Powder Browns are just as bad, but they are such active swimmers.
I got sloppy on my list. I meant to put cardinals x5. I already have two bengais. I want to add some more. I have one male and one female now. Plan on adding two or three more females.
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I love the Regals. The reason i kept them off of the list was because of health issues. I know the Powder Browns are just as bad, but they are such active swimmers.
I got sloppy on my list. I meant to put cardinals x5. I already have two bengais. I want to add some more. I have one male and one female now. Plan on adding two or three more females.
That makes good sense to me
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Old 07-26-2012, 04:36 PM   #9
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That's a sweet looking tank! Congrats....
We are found of our external snapper pumps, external Deltec protein skimmer. I have (4) Tunzes and (2) 1" sea swirls for circulation.
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Old 07-26-2012, 09:13 PM   #10
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Thanks for the reply. I am leaning towards the reeflo snapper hybrids for.pumps. I am planning on three. One for my return feeding two 1/2" sea swirls. One closed loop feeding 2 more sea swirls and another closed loop feeding a 4 way SQWD. After re-reading my post, I realize I.asked for powerhead recommendations but I don't plan on having any. The.other pump I am researching is the Dolphin Ampmaster. On paper, it.seems.to be a.better but not nearly as many reviews.
I have heard great things about the deltec skimmers.
All of the.equipment is.going to have to fit under the stand so it is going to have.to be an in sumptuous skimmer.
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:52 AM   #11
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First plan for water circulation. Would appreciate input. I don't have CAD so I made a sketch in Mocrsoft Word.
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Old 07-27-2012, 01:11 PM   #12
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After doing a little research, I have decided to go with an oceans motions 4-way as opposed to SCWDs to alternate the flow in the CL.
If you notice, the picture of the tank shows the overflow box currently in the right rear corner. I am torn on weather to move it to the rear or not. The only panel that is not starphire glass is the side the overflow is currently on. I hate the idea of drilling a long starphire panel and then finding a house where I would prefer to set it up as a peninsula and I am no longer able to. I think I will leave it alone for now. Hopefully only two or three more moves until I am out of the Navy and able to set up my tank the way that I want.
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Old 07-27-2012, 03:33 PM   #13
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Disregard the plan above. I updated it so hopefully it is a little easier to understand. My goal is 20x turnover (5600 gph) in the display and 3x turnover (840 gph) through the sump.
My biggest question is: Do I need to two closed loop pumps? With penductors on the sea swirls, I should have no problem achieving my turnover rate. I just worry that between penductors, the oceans motion 4way, and all of the pipe, one pump wouldn't be able to handle all of that back pressure. Are there any pumps that could work in this situation? Would appreciate any input.
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Old 07-27-2012, 05:07 PM   #14
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I'm trying to learn here but it appears that you're going to have eight holes in the bottom of the tank outside of the overflow? I understand that they are closed loop systems but I just always thought they would come from the overflow. Is there an advantage either way?

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Old 07-27-2012, 05:23 PM   #15
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I'm trying to learn here but it appears that you're going to have eight holes in the bottom of the tank outside of the overflow? I understand that they are closed loop systems but I just always thought they would come from the overflow. Is there an advantage either way?

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While technically I guess it would be possible to have all of your holes in the overflow area, there would be a downfall to this. The purpose of weirs is to skim the surface. The reason we surface skim is the water at the top of our water column usually has the most dissolved organics in it. It is better to send all of the water that flows over the weir down to our sumps to our protein skimmers. We don't want to send part of this water back into the main display via a closed loop. It means drilling more holes, but I hate looking at my tank and seeing power heads.
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