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Old 03-17-2007, 05:23 AM   #1
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Tiny worms infestation


They came inside a new gorgonian:

This photo - for a size comparison:

All following photos are of the worms(?) on the half-opened gorgonian and chili at the righ corner. Sorry, can't make a better photos - they are too small for my camera:





On glass:


Suspected,that they are flatworms, tried FlatWorm Exit - they were unaffected.

They are multiplying, what can I do to eradicate them?
The tank is small, 6g Nano-Cube.

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Old 03-17-2007, 04:24 PM   #2
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I believe I see segmentation & black jaws which means those are polychaetes worms in the family Dorvilleidae. Possibly genus Ophryotrocha or something related. Take a look at the Ophryotrocha pics on these pages & tell me if yours are similar: http://www.umanitoba.ca/science/zool...ryotrocha.html
http://www.uni-tuebingen.de/evoeco/h...h/research.htm

Being polychaetes flatworm exit isn't going to bother them unless you dose at levels that affect everything in the tank. they're too small to remove by hand so the only way is to get a predator. Unfortunately I don't know what to suggest.

The worms are harmless. They're micrograzers, probably eating bacterial film & detritus.
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:00 AM   #3
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No, not segmentation that Ophryotrocha has.

The general impression is like this unknown flatworm has, only the wide shape of the head without appendages is closer to the sea slug Chelinodura electra, with some unclear bump on the place, where the nidubranches have gills, moves very fast (body length in 2 sec), when wants.

Now have two more advanced cameras to try make more clear photos, will post late in the evening today.
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Old 03-18-2007, 01:45 PM   #4
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Do you have a macro lens or even a magnifying glass? Your worms are so similar to Ophyrotrocha I've collected before that I'd really have to see a good close up before conceding it's something different.

If they're really not Ophryotrocha they could possibly be acoel flatworms. There are a few tiny unadorned opistobranchs but I just don't think this is one of them.
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Old 03-18-2007, 08:42 PM   #5
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Tried magnyfying glass - 16x: they are smooth, like nudibranches, and, because I could see them only on the glass, i.e. their bottom only, looks like they have elongated tail, yellow seemingly soft carapace (as stomatella snail) and something white opaque elongated pieces inside, like sclerites for corals. The head is hammer-like, and scraping eating movements as of the snails.

Advanced cameras were not much of help, this is all I could get:
-Tentacles or antennae in the head, top view (at least it seems so):

- same, plus hammer-like head - the photo on the glass, bottom view:

- practically side view:


The largest ot them are 1.5 - 1.75 mm (1/16") long, or 2-2.5 cyclops body length (also clearly visible on the tank glass with 16x magnification. I thought, that cyclops are freshwater species... You know, pear-shaped body, couple of antennae on the head, and 2 longer paddles as a legs).

Also, the one new thing, only couldn't make photo - camera focuses on the bigger background objects: ~3 mm (1/8", or 5 cyclops bodies lengths) long round worm, slim, white, almost transparent, opaque white eggs-like granules inside the abdomen, hammer-like head (but less expressed, comparing to the first, smaller worms or nudis), and at the end of the first 1/3 of the body - tangerine-orange belt around the body, except the belly.

Really like idea of using magnifying glass - so many new things in the tank!
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Old 03-19-2007, 10:53 PM   #6
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Sorry, i just have to say it, but "opistobranchs" is one of my most favorite sounding words....


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Old 03-20-2007, 06:15 AM   #7
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Thanks, the body looks similar, only mine are of a smaller size. Harmless or not, how tho treat the tank to remove them?
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