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03-20-2006, 03:58 PM
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Reef Safe Butterflies
What are some Reef Safe butterfly fish? are there any?
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03-20-2006, 04:19 PM
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Big Fishy
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That one tends to be no on completely reef safe, but there are some that are sort of reef safe depending on personality, training, and species...
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03-20-2006, 04:50 PM
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SPS Farmer
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I dont think any reef safe angle fish are 100% reef safe. There is always a chance that they will nip on corals. I wouldn't risk it in a reef tank.
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03-20-2006, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr.Reef
I dont think any reef safe angle fish are 100% reef safe. There is always a chance that they will nip on corals. I wouldn't risk it in a reef tank.
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did i confuse you with too many threads. 
did you mean to post this in the angel thread?
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03-21-2006, 06:36 AM
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Little Fishy
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copperbands tend to be good reefsafe butterflies.
anyone know of any copperbands that aren't?
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03-21-2006, 06:49 AM
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Little Fishy
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I was gonna say copperbands?
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03-21-2006, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by gitsumpottery
copperbands tend to be good reefsafe butterflies.
anyone know of any copperbands that aren't?
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But aren't the copperbanded butterflies known to nip at clam mantles?
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03-21-2006, 08:43 AM
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i would actually consider copperbands not reef safe. people like to put them in their systems to control aiptasia. some do, most do not. most tend to start out by devouring the fan worms in the tank, then focus on aiptasia or other small polyped anemones. if they are not weened onto prepared foods than just about anything is considered on the menu including clam mantles. clam mantles seem to be a forite nip food for a lot fish.  those that do not find suitable food, will waste away.
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03-21-2006, 09:42 AM
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Big Fishy
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I agree with Geoff on the Copperband. Unfortunately, my problem with butterflies is that I have yet to hear of one that is really fit for the home aquarium due to diet or fragility. So even if they are reef safe, they wouldn't really be aquarium appropriate...
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03-21-2006, 03:34 PM
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Shark
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Never had one... but I think that generally pyramid butterflies are safe?? Genus Hemitaurichthys
anybody have experience?
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03-21-2006, 06:19 PM
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Shark
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I had a copperband and the only issue I had was he would eat my feather duster....But left coral alone!
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03-21-2006, 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosine
Never had one... but I think that generally pyramid butterflies are safe?? Genus Hemitaurichthys
anybody have experience?
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BINGO!!! 
i have seen these in a few reef systems. they are not the most attractive butterflies, hence the reason they are not imported more.
there is only one other butterfly that i know of that is reef safe, what is it?
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03-21-2006, 11:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Geoff
did i confuse you with too many threads.
did you mean to post this in the angel thread?
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LOL....Yeah I must of got confused... 
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03-22-2006, 01:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Geoff
BINGO!!!
i have seen these in a few reef systems. they are not the most attractive butterflies, hence the reason they are not imported more.
there is only one other butterfly that i know of that is reef safe, what is it?
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I was thinking and thinking... then it clicked... bannerfish...
I think Heniochus diphreutes is reef-safe and the Heniochus acuminatus is not. Please correct me if I mixed the two up.
Is this what you were thinking Geoff?
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03-22-2006, 03:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Cosine
I was thinking and thinking... then it clicked... bannerfish...
I think Heniochus diphreutes is reef-safe and the Heniochus acuminatus is not. Please correct me if I mixed the two up.
Is this what you were thinking Geoff?
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you are correct. the H. diphreutes is also a shoaling fish while the H. acuminatus is more of a loner.
now figuring out which one is which is up to you. since they are so difficult to tell the difference there is a good chance that the LFS may have either. they are shipped out as bannerfish, they are not seperated on most distributor lists.
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