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Old 03-20-2006, 03:59 PM   #1
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Reef Safe Angelfish


what are some reef safe angelfish?

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Old 03-20-2006, 07:32 PM   #2
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Lamarck's Angelfish

(Genicanthus lamarck)
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Old 03-20-2006, 07:35 PM   #3
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Swallowtail Angelfish


(Genicanthus melanospilus)



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Old 03-20-2006, 07:47 PM   #4
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the Genicanthus Genus is considered reef safe. what makes these angels reef safe while the others are not? not eating corals does not count as an answer.

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They are peaceful fish and a quote from Live Aquaria again, I'm not sure if this is what you are asking for

"Fish of the genus Genicanthus are the only zooplanktivores among the angelfish."
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Old 03-20-2006, 09:23 PM   #6
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"Fish of the genus Genicanthus are the only zooplanktivores among the angelfish."
that is exactly what i am looking for.

what does zooplanktivore mean? why is it important for what we are talking about?

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Old 03-20-2006, 09:55 PM   #7
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A zooplanktivore eats zooplankton (little animals that live in the water column, plants and rocks to give a simple definition) By the way Geoff, if this isn't just to provoke discussion I am going to start wondering about your intelligence

The reason its important to reef aquariums to have this kind of Angelfish versus the kind that eats corals is fairly basic. The average hobbyist can grow more zooplankton fast enough to feed the zooplanktivore while the average hobbyist usually can not grow corals fast enough to feed those angelfish that like them. Since most hobbyists are like you and place a higher value on coral life than any other, most people don't consider a coral eater appropriate for their reef systems.

Every critter you buy, will eat something from your reef, no matter what. The question is, can you live with their preferred meal choice?
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Old 03-21-2006, 08:46 AM   #8
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gone back to Discussion of the Week mode.

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A zooplanktivore eats zooplankton (little animals that live in the water column, plants and rocks to give a simple definition).

Every critter you buy, will eat something from your reef, no matter what. The question is, can you live with their preferred meal choice?
what are considered benthic invertibrates? how does this fit into your definition of zooplankton above.

great comment on the preferred meal of choice.

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Benthic Invertebrate -Refers to animals with no backbone or internal skeleton that live on the bottom of lakes, ponds, wetlands, rivers, and streams, and among aquatic plants. Benthic invertebrates provide an essential source of food for young and adult fish, wildlife, and other animals. Examples include caddisflies, midge larvae, scuds, waterfleas, crayfish, sponges, snails, worms, leeches, and nymphs of mayflies, dragonflies, and damselflies. The benthic invertebrate Diaporeia, is an ecosystem indicator.

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research is absolutely allowed.

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The other nice thing about Genicanthus sp. for the home aquaria is that they don't get too huge. I think the Lamarck's is the largest and tops out at about 10", if I remember right.

I love the Swallowtails, though it can be difficult sometimes to get them started eating.
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I just checked Kelli's link on the Swallowtails; the females are prettier than the males. I didn't know that! Thanks for posting, Kelli.
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Old 03-21-2006, 01:59 PM   #13
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I just checked Kelli's link on the Swallowtails; the females are prettier than the males. I didn't know that! Thanks for posting, Kelli.
fortunately or unfortunately depending on the species, they will change on you as they mature. they are all born female. the dominant one will change to a male when it matures.

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FWIW:

I have had a rusty and flame angel. Only nipped at fleshy corals like Ginopria's and Open Brains. Needless to say they are no longer in the tank!

Left everything else alone.
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Could be bad info, but I have heard that the Japenesse angels "require" frequent feedings throughout the day, assuming the system is not providing the food source.

There seems to be some consensus that cherub angels are as close to a reef safe dwarf angel as you will ever find.

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