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01-06-2007, 09:34 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: white bear
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tunze stream kit? or wave box?
anyone have either of these? which is better?
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01-08-2007, 06:51 PM
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king of brown corals
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: st.pete florida
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i have both . you can't go wrong with picking either , but keep in mind that each one gives different motion . also depends on your tank size . i've had the wavebox in a 75 gallon i had and it work great but four foot is the shortest tank it will work on properally and after 6ft you may need a slave box . the nice thing about streams on a multicontroller is you have complete control over output , so if you have a smaller tank you can dial them down and if you decide to get a bigger tank you won't have to go out and purchase new equipment . its tough to help you in your decision since i favor both set-ups . BUT that being said - knowing what both products do and if your tank is large enough , go with the wavebox , especially if you already are using other power heads . the flow caused by the wavebox causes water to flow completly through the corals . keep in mind that tunze says that a wavebox will shorten tank life by something like 10% . but that should'nt discourage you if you have a new tank or one thats a year or two old . if an average tank last 20 years that means your only knocking off two years of life . other thing is the stand needs to be rock solid , since the weight of the water is constatly moving .
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01-08-2007, 07:15 PM
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Is it gonna rain today?
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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If you want to see what kind of flow you get with a WaveBox, just go to this web site:
http://www.coastal.udel.edu/faculty/rad/seiche.html
put in:
Length: 3
Depth: 1
Model Number: 1
And, calculate.
WaveBoxes just rock the water back and forth and up and down, but don't transport anything anywhere.
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01-08-2007, 09:06 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: white bear
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its a standard drilled 180G
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01-09-2007, 06:56 PM
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king of brown corals
Join Date: Sep 2005
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in a standard 180 you can use one wavebox . it will get you approx. a 11/2" too 2" wave depending on your aqua scape . and even though as weatherman stated that it rocks the water back and forth , while doing this it helps keep detritus in suspension , which helps get it out of the tank .
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01-09-2007, 07:01 PM
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king of brown corals
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sprayin70
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that is pretty neat ! that may be the ticket for smaller tanks . i wonder how its set-up to do the forward and reverse action without frying the p.h. . with the amount of water thats entering and exiting his box section i don't think it would work very good on a larger tank . but i could be wrong !
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01-09-2007, 08:35 PM
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Is it gonna rain today?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by gwaco
...and even though as weatherman stated that it rocks the water back and forth , while doing this it helps keep detritus in suspension , which helps get it out of the tank .
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As long as you have other powerheads or pumps to get the water moving.
I think even the Tunze USA rep, Roger Vitko, recommends against using only the WaveBox, all by itself, since there is no net transport of water; the WaveBox just rocks the water up and down and back and forth.
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01-19-2007, 11:40 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: St. Pete, FL
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I had just two waveboxes along with my main circulation pump ( sequence barracuda) on my tank for a few months and as Weatherman said this was not enough to circulate the water. I get a 1"-1 1/2" wave and the water motion keeps food particles and detritus from settling in the open areas of the tank but it does get caught in the rock work. I eventually added a Tunze Stream and I no longer have any issues.
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02-06-2007, 09:11 PM
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squid
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Singapore
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Yup. I use a wavebox and a stream. looking to getting another stream.
However, placement of the wavebox is impt. to get maximum benefits, you have to face it across the length of the tank with minimal obstruction.
I placed mine at the back end with no obstruction. Works perfectly!
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