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Old 01-16-2009, 04:32 AM   #31
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All i see is XL REVERSE SUNSET MONTI... It says nothing about steve tyree. Your contradicting yourself saying that the first link is an undata, but my coral looks exactly like the one in the first link
No, i'm not contradicting myself myself. The picture in the first link looks like it could be an undata... yours looks like a confusa, The both have very slightly different growth forms. IF it were the true Tyree Reverse Sunset (and not the commonly sold imposter) It would be listed as Tyree Reverse Sunset, as the Tyree Rainbow is listed. I'd like to see his direct lineage on his corals for sure, Proof as to where he has gotten the Tyree stuff from, cause some of it doesn't look true.
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Old 01-16-2009, 04:35 AM   #32
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Let me also ask u this TONY. Check out the site as i am bout to order a superman, pokerstar and rainbow montis'. Are these all TRU montiporas or are they different???
The Rainbow looks liek the real deal. The Superman and Pokerstar look a little strange to me... I dont think that the Superman is, it looks like my superman as far as coloration goes, but the growth form is what is strange.
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:45 AM   #33
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Thats ultimateluy the problem with name brands and color morphs, unless you can produce a pedigree, ultimately what it is or isn't gets hard to say.
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:58 AM   #34
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absolutely, positively, without any doubt...100% confusa all the way.
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Old 01-16-2009, 06:29 PM   #35
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Let me also ask u this TONY. Check out the site as i am bout to order a superman, pokerstar and rainbow montis'. Are these all TRU montiporas or are they different???
I can save you some time and possibly some money before buying those corals.

This is a Superman Montipora that has excessive polyp extension it is blue underneath:



This is a Rainbow Montipora:



This is a Sunset Montipora, so the Reverse Sunset would have the colors in the opposite positions:



Sorry, but I do not have a Poker Star Montipora, but it is on my shopping list.
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Old 01-16-2009, 07:57 PM   #36
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Dude that is no superman. The reason they call it a superman is cuz u can see the blue base and (RED) polyps not orange like your has.. Your rainbow looks untrue also. Maybe it just justifies that all corals are differently shaped. Same colors but they are not gonna all be shaped the same. It depends on the base on which the coral is placed. This is a real superman and real rainbow
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:03 PM   #37
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As for the Undata and Confusa. Im looking at my coral right now. Im not blind. It is a splitting image of the coral on Worldwidecorals.com. And to tell you the truth the guy that owns world wide corals is well known in the coral business and is close friends with Steve Tyree. Serioulsy just because steve tyree has a coral and calls it something doesnt mean that he is the only one holding that coral. I know he splits it with others but there is NO WAY that it is the same corals because there isnt that much to go around. Think about it. The world wide coral guy wanted to work with my boss Steve at Tropical Lagoon and he thought he was an *******. He went on to start his own business and became friends with steve tyree. Im sure he is not putting his name (world wide corals) behind fake corals...
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This is going from bad to worse. Sheesh. Get an ATS and an Aquaripure and call it a day. The threads all look the same.
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:11 PM   #39
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But, just to participate, when it comes to identifying montipora's, if Fat Tony tells me I have an "inside out aunt jemima waffle montipora", then I am gonng tell me people I have an "inside out aunt jemima waffle montipora".
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Dude, have you read one single post.... just because it is and orange and green Monit DOES NOT MAKE IT REVERSE SUNSET. The REVERSE SUNSET was named by Steve Tyree, it is a specific lineage of coral. Just because another coral may look like it does not make it the same, can you get that????? That just makes it a Orange and Green Monti, PERIOD........ People pay top $ for the Tyree stuff because they know the lineage and they know what they are getting when they order one. So, if you can wrap your brain around this and understand what is being stated here by SEVERAL people, then maybe you will start to understand the lineage relationship to the corals. Your Monti is NOT Reverse Sunset Montipora, which is the name given to a specific type and coloration of a specific Monti colony that he obtained and aquacultured. I'm done here, you apparently do not get the simple explanations of how the lineage and identification of such corals look, so there is no more to say... good luck and I hope one day you can understand what everyone has been trying to tell you from post #2 in this thread.
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Dude that is no superman. The reason they call it a superman is cuz u can see the blue base and (RED) polyps not orange like your has.. Your rainbow looks untrue also. Maybe it just justifies that all corals are differently shaped. Same colors but they are not gonna all be shaped the same. It depends on the base on which the coral is placed. This is a real superman and real rainbow
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DUde... you have no clue....OMG... That is the REAL Tyree (direct lineage) Superman Montipora...The base is Blue underneath and is not showng because of the masssive polyp extension...really dude, you have no idea.
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Old 01-16-2009, 08:26 PM   #42
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I hope one day you can understand what everyone has been trying to tell you from post #2 in this thread.
You got any "inside out aunt jemima waffle montipora" frags I can get at the picnic?
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:04 PM   #43
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All Confusa Corals....... All CONFUSA growing in a flame like fashion
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All im saying is its not a confusa... They are all on your side becuase you ID most of the corals correctly. Like i said it can be whatever but your wrong about it being a Confusa.. Wrap your brain around that...........
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His polyps ARE NOT RED. There Orange!!!!!!!
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Old 01-16-2009, 09:12 PM   #45
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if wolfes pics of the superman and rainbow are the frags from me then they do have lineage. i have the receipts from fragfarmers eric caarmano for superman and rainbow. i have the receipt from the coralfarmers market on the sunset.

that superman has had different polyp extention in different tanks. what is consistent is no matter how bad you treat it it wont brown out. i run a zeovit system and i didnt get the polyp extention tony got from it.

i know tony knows his monties, but im a little pressed thinking its confusa either. that is a growth edge cut but has no growth edge color. i still lean towards tuberculosa. n myself. but when it matures more it should be more evident. not smooth enough for denai.

right or wrong, more than half of the reverse sunsets are sold as this though. there are some on ebay right now. ive not seen the true one in person though. maybe i should get one??
didnt mean to add confusian to the mix (haha) by throwing a third coral to argue about but its just a thought.
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