Reverse Sunset Montipora

[dacro]

Let's all take a breath here...

The pics in the 1st post are not the true reverse sunset. The true coral looks like the sunset monti, only reversed (as Jadinop stated).

Enjoy the new coral... it's SWEET!!!

[firsthesitation]

I've never seen Tony steer anyone wrong yet in my time on this site. But I agree as well, does not look like a reverse sunset. But with most frags they're typically ID'd wrong from manufactures and stores alike.

[crvz]

Originally Posted by firsthesitation

... ID'd wrong from manufactures...

tee hee hee, makes me think there's a factory building corals.

[Fat Tony]

LOL... now if they would just get the production line in order so they can increase production and get more coral out the door at a cheaper price

[firsthesitation]

HA, whoops. Didnt even realize I worded it that way....Although if you've ever been up to drs foster and smith home store, you might change your mind about the coral factory idea.

[Fat Tony]

I have seen video of their setup... pretty cool deal up there... I think that they may still need to call in Henry Ford to make the "assembly line" more efficient

[cronamator]

IMO im going to play devils advocate a minute that frag is still too small to confirm whether its a confusa or not. its not denai, that much you can tell by its ridging. the only thing that gives the impression its denai is the polyp spacing. but thats a growth edge cut frag so the spacing is going to be further apart.
call me carzy but i think mollis (although this color form is rare for mollis) or teberculosa. just my .02 worth. either way THATS not the first time that has been sold as reverse sunset, its actually more commonly sold as reverse sunset than the true one tony speaks of. so whose right? both in a sense. i will tell you Dr macs doesnt appear authentic either, maybe its a bad pic though. ole daddy mac could use a d-slr and gete away from the 5 megapixel easy share.

[cronamator]

i like it and will take it off your hands to end this argument. its the only fair thing to do.

[Fat Tony]

Maybe Tuberculosa, but I agree a far stretch maybe a Mollis. I still stand by my original ID or being Confusa... of course there is the other possibility of it being Undata or Meandrina... again, unlikely but possible

[aquawolf]

I think it needs to be sent to me for a closer inspection and some time in my tank. Of course I will be more than happy to return it once it grows out enough to give everyone a positive ID on it.

As Dacro said, let's all take a deep breath and keep this friendly. Stating that "I am not trying to insult your intelligence" is basically insulting someone's intelligence. There are plenty of other reef forums out there where the members act like this all the time, but fortunately that is not what this site is about.

[Xler8n]

The sunset montipora doesnt look like the reverse sunset as i have done much research on that coral before i bought it. They actually dont know if they would classify it under a danae. It could be anything but i do not think its a Confusa. That is a pic of a mother colony..

Reverse Sunset Monti Frag
http://www.worldwidecorals.com/prodd...=reversesunset
Lemme guess your gonna say this is not a reverse sunset either...........

Confusa
http://www.worldwidecorals.com/prodd...d=greenconfusa

We could go on and on about whos more knowledgable and who is listing corals wrong because it has been done for decades just to sell pieces. But i think it is a REVERSE SUNSET MONTIPORA because thats what i bought it as and i didnt just buy it and start talking... I did plenty of research for hours the night before i bought it. Not Confusa. Confusa grows upward and branchy. That link that i sent before had bad pictures i know that but the info is solid along with other sites... Like i said not all reverse sunset monti look exactly the same as does no coral... Sorry about the heat TONY. I was just aggrevated that you say its a Confusa but its cleary not. I work as an assistant manager at Tropical Lagoon Aquarium here in SS. We get confusa all the time and looks like nothing ive ever seen come through my store. Hes right keep it friendly as we are all fellow reefers trying to rid the world of these evil false namers.

[Fat Tony]

ok...the first pic is the other coral that is commonly called reverse sunset.... but tad da, it's not. Steve Tyree coined the names for these corals, and the true reverse sunset has the same growth structure as the True Sunset, just oposite colored (green base with orange polyps)

Confusa does not grow branches, it is an encrusting Monti that plates when it grows over an edge. The Spongodes is what you are calling Confusa... and that is leading from that website with all the inaccurate info. And like I said, you do not have the Reverse Sunset Monti....The LFS that sold it to you was wrong and was trying to sell you a coral based on a famous name. I'll take you a pic of what Spongodes and Confusa look like... if I still have a pic of my Spongodes.

You are holding on to this as being true, but there are several advanced guys on here that know what the real deal is and what it looks like and are telling you that yours is not.

As for the links.. people who have a fairly common coral will often give it the popular LE name to sell at a higher price just because it has the same similar coloration. The first link is not True Rev. Sunset it is however maybe a undata, which is still a desireable coral. Your piece is nice, and I would buy it myself, but it is not the Tyree (true) Reverse Sunset.

[crvz]

Well said, Tony. If you're defining a reverse sunset as green with orange/red polyps, and that's it, then yes you have a reverse sunset. But, good or bad (as I don't care much for the hobby hype behind coral naming), the true reverse sunset is that which Tony links earlier of Tyree's piece.

[Xler8n]

All i see is XL REVERSE SUNSET MONTI... It says nothing about steve tyree. Your contradicting yourself saying that the first link is an undata, but my coral looks exactly like the one in the first link
http://www.worldwidecorals.com/prodd...=reversesunset
and your calling mine a confusa. Just because this guy steve tyree's name isnt on it doesnt mean its not a reverse sunset. Yes he coined the name and the names for all these other corals but he is not the only one having it. I agree with CRONAMATOR in that it is a frag off the growth edges and the polyps arent that dense and large yet. Say what you will but we'll all know for sure once it has matured.

[Xler8n]

Let me also ask u this TONY. Check out the site as i am bout to order a superman, pokerstar and rainbow montis'. Are these all TRU montiporas or are they different???