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12-15-2006, 02:31 AM
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Shark
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QT tank
Can we discuss Qt tank? Especially for new SPS, more specifically Acros...the question? What is the best way to QT acros...should you treat for redbug if you don't see any. What about AEFW, should you treat for that if you don't see any. How long should you treat..how long to keep in quaranteen? Can you mix treatments? ie. Can you mix lugols with interceptor? Should you mix? Or is it better to do one at a time? Furthermore, can you treat and share the water with multiple frags/colonys or is that a bad idea?
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12-15-2006, 11:35 AM
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Just some guy, you know?
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I have a book on this by Frank Burr, cool guy, the book's not flashy but it's cheap, easy to understand and has plenty of information on Q setup, you should look into it.
Here's how I plan to Q after reading this book.
Tank setup! 15G BB tank with water from my most sucessfull system for the type of coral I am Qing. (IE water from the SPS tank)
Heater I had laying around, the second one I tried, the first didn't work, tank hit 90
300 GPH powerhead, if I could find the stupid thing I would also have a hydoor rotating deflector.
Goat.
2*55W PC bulbs on good reflectors, these are almost literally on the water's surface, I am able to get 10,000 Lux out of them due to them being side by side over a small are of the tank, which is plenty, but I would reccomend a 175W MH if you have it.
ATO, cheap one but it works.
Magfloat with some Eggcrate glued to it to position the coral. This is cool because you can put the coral anywhere you want on the glass depending on it's needs.
More to come:
Whiskey
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12-15-2006, 11:45 AM
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Just some guy, you know?
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Alright I'm back,.. for the moment anyway.
I buy a frag! Cool.
It gets dipped in TMPCC, then into Q
In 5 days (5 days is the approx egg hatching intervul for lots of pests) I dip in TMPCC, back into Q.
In 5 days I dip in TMPCC then back into Q.
In 5 days I dip in TMPCC than into main tank.
This whole time I am watching the coral for signs of pests.
The idea is while you can't kill the eggs, you get the adults before they can lay any more, then right after the eggs hatch you get the babies before there old enough to lay eggs. By this you should be fine with one dip in and one dip out, but I like to be safe.
Don't use this Q setup for Maxima Clams though, it's not nearly enough light, especially for small ones they don't have much stored energy, I did manage to get the one I nearly killed back to health though I hope.
I have just set this system up a few months ago, I used it for my Maxima clam, and a few SPS.
Whiskey
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12-15-2006, 11:46 AM
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Oh, I don't drain the water after Q, there's no coral in it there should be nothing for any pests to eat and they would die. I do however shut off the lights to save power when nothing's in there.
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12-15-2006, 11:48 AM
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Shark
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Sounds great so far, I'll be here for more when more comes!
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12-15-2006, 11:55 AM
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Shark
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you posted as I did...does it matter wheather you're doing multiple frags or frags an colonies? What is TMPCC, for flat worms? And can you mix multiple additives to the water...for instance say flatworm exit, interceptor and parasite stuff...I would think it would be ok to mix-but maybe it would be too toxic all at once-just don't know-any advice? It would seem doing each thing separately would take a very long time and multiple water changes..
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12-15-2006, 12:03 PM
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Shark
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oops, another question....if you don't change the water-how long is it good for? Do you eventually change it out or do you carbon it out. I would like to set this up correctly once and for all- the easiest way possible-maybe like a Qt tank to frag tank to main display...
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12-15-2006, 12:07 PM
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Shark
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and another question, lol....is there a bottom color which would be most suitable to see the little buggers...are most bugs a color, I'm thinking painting the bottom white on the outside of the Q tank might make them easier to see-maybe its not necessary, just don't know...
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12-15-2006, 12:46 PM
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Just some guy, you know?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Viv
Sounds great so far, I'll be here for more when more comes!
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Look up
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12-15-2006, 12:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Viv
you posted as I did...does it matter wheather you're doing multiple frags or frags an colonies? What is TMPCC, for flat worms? And can you mix multiple additives to the water...for instance say flatworm exit, interceptor and parasite stuff...I would think it would be ok to mix-but maybe it would be too toxic all at once-just don't know-any advice? It would seem doing each thing separately would take a very long time and multiple water changes..
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Umm.
TMPCC is Tropic Marine Pro Coral Cure (You can see why I don't want to
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12-15-2006, 12:51 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Viv
you posted as I did...does it matter wheather you're doing multiple frags or frags an colonies? What is TMPCC, for flat worms? And can you mix multiple additives to the water...for instance say flatworm exit, interceptor and parasite stuff...I would think it would be ok to mix-but maybe it would be too toxic all at once-just don't know-any advice? It would seem doing each thing separately would take a very long time and multiple water changes..
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Weird. Picking up where I left off,...
type the whole thing)
The number of corals your doing at once doesn't matter, just make sure you never add a frag half way through the Q process.
TMPCC is for allot of stuff, but it's a dip only.
I wouldn't add any meds to the Q tank personally, though some use interceptor in there. I let my dips and eyes do the work.
Flatworm exit doesn't work on AEFW.
That's why I dip the corals out of the tank.
Whiskey
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12-15-2006, 12:53 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Viv
oops, another question....if you don't change the water-how long is it good for? Do you eventually change it out or do you carbon it out. I would like to set this up correctly once and for all- the easiest way possible-maybe like a Qt tank to frag tank to main display...
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I don't know, i'll probably change eventually but for now carben is fine. If your that worried about it use the water change water you take from your main tank with every water change to do a change in Q.
Whiskey.
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12-15-2006, 12:54 PM
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Oh, and never connect the Q tank to the main tank.
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12-15-2006, 12:55 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Viv
and another question, lol....is there a bottom color which would be most suitable to see the little buggers...are most bugs a color, I'm thinking painting the bottom white on the outside of the Q tank might make them easier to see-maybe its not necessary, just don't know...
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I don't know, lets see,.... AEFW you can't see they eat the coral and take on the same color. Monti nudies are white, so white would be a bad deal there. Red bugs are red. I would probably go black.
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12-15-2006, 01:19 PM
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Shark
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Thank you for all your help and quick responses! I'll be sure to check out that book by Frank Burr also 
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