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05-23-2009, 05:51 PM
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Plankton
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Hawkins Enchinata tips
I think my Hawking Enchinata might be bleaching. I looked at it this morning very closely and it looked like maybe half of the tips were white, but a faint white. Just the very tops, the very tips. There is also a spot on the base that is white also, is there a way to reverse this? I have a 14 gallon biocube, with a 150 watt sunpod over it, it is in the bottom half of the tank, so there is definatly a lot of light in the tank. I would hate to frag it, and seeing as I am only 17 my mom bought it and it was expensive and she would me very mad if the coral bit the dust, so any advice is appreciated. 
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05-23-2009, 06:31 PM
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Plankton
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Do sps bleach because spectrums of lights change? If so that might be my reason my bulb is almost a year old, it is 10 months old, but I do have another acropora and it isn't bleaching....yet (knock on wood), can anyone request any good bulbs? I've heard Ushio is a good bulb, anyone second that?
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05-23-2009, 06:56 PM
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a pic would help
whenever you bleach a coral to white, it is near death. it can be saved of course, but when talking about very thin branching corals such as this one you are typically in trouble
also, are you sure it is bleached and not already dead? If there is no flesh on the skeleton where it appears white, nor any polyps there then that white parrt of the coral is not bleached, it is dead, and it may already be, or be past the time you should have sttarted cutting it up in an attempt to save what you can
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05-23-2009, 06:58 PM
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IF it's just the tips it might be new growth. Pics would help immensely.
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05-23-2009, 07:14 PM
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ive never seen my hawkins with white growth tips. it doesnt grow fast enough
typically when you see white growth tips it is only on fast growing corals and the white you see is becasue the skeleton is growing faster than the flesh and zooxanthellae can keep up with
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05-23-2009, 10:10 PM
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Plankton
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Well it is only on some of the tips, on some of the other tips polyps are out, so i'm really confused as what to do. I can't really take a great picture as my phone is the only thing I have to take a picture and they are really blurry and the tips, are the only thing affected (so far at least) and it would be hard to get a clear pic to see them, but I will try.
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05-23-2009, 10:29 PM
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Plankton
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Oh I can't post pictures since I don't have 20 posts, ya me!  |
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05-23-2009, 10:31 PM
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Yeah, I am sure it is definatly alive, since about half of the polyps still some out and the coloration has improved since I got it from my LFS. Which I don't think that means anything in terms of bleaching, but I think that means I'm doing something right.
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05-23-2009, 10:38 PM
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Yes ,sounds like it's growing ,but when you get 20 post,let us see!
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05-23-2009, 11:04 PM
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to be sure, when I said it may be already dead......I didnt meant the entire coral. I was just referring to the white spots you describe. I assure you it isnt growth. It is either bleached or dead. If you cant see any polyps on the white part, and it appears you can actually see the skeleton directly in those white parts, then we may need to take action soon to try to save this thing. That is what is called rtn, stn at a minimum, and once it starts and depending on how fast it is moving, action is many times necessary or you will watch the corals flesh just disappear.
take another look at with what I said in concern to the visible skeleton and no polyps thing........then report back and we will figure out if that is the case
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Last edited by Fly Guy; 05-23-2009 at 11:19 PM.
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05-23-2009, 11:43 PM
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Plankton
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Well actually on one or two of the ones that had the sortof "bleached" tips I saw the polyps trying to come out, so now I am really confused. I looked at it, and on some I could see the white with some visible white lines on it, not sure if that means skeleton or not? With this rtn or stn will it work its way down the coral? Will the coral flesh grow over the white part again if it becomes healthy? I will definatly post some pictures, eventhough they will be blurry. It will still be better than what I have described.
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05-24-2009, 12:15 AM
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again..hard t o say for sure without a good pic, but aIm going to guess the lines are good and is in fact still flesh.
get that thing low in the tank off to the side as far away from your lights as you can get it for the moment(without being in the shade) and make sure it has excellent flow. You want the xooanthellae to return even if it ends up being brownish in the process. A brown coral is easy t o get the color back of. A bleached one, especially a thin branching bleached one is tough to get the zoox back but it can most definitely be done.
good luck and post pics when you can. You can send me a email if you like as well and I can check it out as well as post if for you. it is a nice coral and we dont want mom to shy away from buying you nice ones in the future 
If it does die for some reason, dont go out of your way to tell her either. 
how long have you had the coral out of curiousity??
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05-24-2009, 03:29 AM
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I have had the coral maybe a month and a half to two months. Oh yeah she always notices. Even when things are healthy, she is always, "How come this isn't out, what's going on, it isn't all pretty like it was in the store." She doesn't know the different lights play a factor on the coral. Not really sure if I have told her that either. Should I put it in the sand in the corner or my tank? That would be the farthest away from the lights. This is for future reference for acorpora flow: How much flow can they withstand? Can they be infront of a powerhead? Is three inches to close to a koralia nano? Sorry for the twenty questions, lol. |
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05-24-2009, 03:37 AM
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high flow, and high velocity flow are two very different things. I have never used a koralia nano so I cant say for sure, but even if it as gentle as I think it probably is.....3 inches is probably too much velocity.
most sps can appreciate and thrive in insane amounts fo flow, provided it is non direct, preferrably random, low velocity flow
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05-24-2009, 03:42 AM
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Plankton
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Okay, I was thinking so as well. I have an old Rio powerhead and it seems like the Rio is more of a stream and the koralia is more of a wide spread out flow, and is not as strong, eventhough the koralia is rated twice as high as for gph. I don't know, lol.
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