ack ick and a few other nasty things

steamboatwv · 10-04-2007, 10:22 AM

Ok I know now why I have no PE on the new acro I got yesterday, looked clean yesterday but this morn was covered with Redbugs, My question is since I do not have a QT tank (child took care of that for me)
what besides interceptor will get rid of them, can you do a FW dip with iodine to kill them??

steamboatwv · 10-04-2007, 10:32 AM

Nevermind, the LFS appologized said to bring it back, told me to remove it slowly from the tank, and that if any wind up on my other acro then he will get a tank ready for me at his store to put my inverts in till i finish treating the display, and he said that if it is needed he would supply the intercepter to do it with, he said they must have come in on a recent shipment cause he hasnt seen any on them till now.

ckusnierek · 10-04-2007, 10:38 AM

Here is a link...
http://www.reefs.org/phpBB2/viewtopi...=439155#439155

steamboatwv · 10-04-2007, 12:59 PM

Well I just got back from taking the redbug special to the LFS, and for my trouble like I said if I see any in my display that poofed off of it, he is going to QT my inverts for me to treat but meanwhile for finding out for him that the tank that one came from had RB's and for my troubles he upgraded my sps for me from his aquacultured tank. 50 bucks more a piece for them than I paid for the other, and didnt charge me anything for the difference, he also made sure he gave me one that had its own little cleanin crew in it lol. he felt so bad and put his tank on no sales till all is treated in that one, he has checked over every other tank he has and that seems to be the only tank he has with them thank goodness for him. but here is a pic of the one he upgraded me too for the problems its 4 inches in diameter and 3 1/2 in tall. and its little cleaner crabs.

ckusnierek · 10-04-2007, 01:03 PM

Thats GREAT customer service. Treating ppl like that keeps them comming back

I wish there were more like that.

steamboatwv · 10-04-2007, 11:33 PM

Yes he is an awsome guy to buy from, for reg customers he gives little freebies quite often, He is the only LFS we have here that I completely trust for service, He builds and sets up Large displays for companies around here and maintains them for them every week personally to make sure they are running clean and proper. he has helped me out tremendously. I cant afford a RO/DI system so he sells me water for my water changes weekly for 25 cents a gal to help me out. if I want premix with salt he charges me 75 cent a gal. quite the good dealer.

Fly Guy · 10-04-2007, 11:58 PM

Dont be afraid of interceptor, and if you dropped the infected coral in your tank the system IS already infescted with redbugs. If you removed the majority of them with the infected caoral as soon as you saw it it will take 1-4 months for theior presence to be seen on your other acros, but they will show I guarantee it. Just watch for the smoother skinned non slimers, and in the next week or two if you look closely you will begin to see a bug or two.

steamboatwv · 10-05-2007, 12:21 AM

but interceptor will kill the inverts, shrimp, crabs, clams etc... correct??

Fly Guy · 10-05-2007, 12:32 AM

Well I have more experience with interceptor than I would like to admit and I have never even phased a snail or clam, not even in quadruple doses of it. I dont keep crabs or shrimp so I cant answer to that. It did kill all of my acro crabs but they are tiny.

UNfortunately, like i said, if you so much as dropped that infested coral in your display for even a minute, treating the whole system is something you are going to have to do in the months to come

steamboatwv · 10-05-2007, 12:39 AM

Well I do understand that, and I will wait to do it for at least a month because I am getting ready to move and have to break the tank down this weekend to do so, dont need twice the hassle for now. and like I said earlier the good thing is that when it comes to that, my LFS will provide me a safe haven for my inverts to be safe till its over with. so I wont really concern myself with killing them. but after all is moved and set up I will probably find out what would be a correct dosage for my tank. so I dont nuke the whole thing...I am just glad i found them before it got worse, and got it back out fast.

Fly Guy · 10-05-2007, 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by steamboatwv

I will probably find out what would be a correct dosage for my tank. so I dont nuke the whole thing...I am just glad i found them before it got worse, and got it back out fast.

I hate to say it but whether or nto you removed it or not the damage was done. You really may as well have just kept it and just treated the system at that point.

As far as correct dosage, you should find the correct dosage and double it IMO, as well as do the full three treatments. If you try to cut it close the stronger bugs may survive and you will be left with Interceptor resilient bugs which isnt good for you or anyone else in the hobby who may get corals from you. Redbugs are surely one of the pests that arent to be all that feared at this point as erradcication is fairly simple and safe, unlike aefw's or monti eating nudis for example, which are a real problem as we dont have a reasonable means to erradicate at this point.

jmo

steamboatwv · 10-05-2007, 01:24 AM

as far as taking it out, it was the LFS idea after i called him to let him know he had them, and I got the better end of that deal other than i know my tank has the bugs now, he took back the completely infested one which had hundreds on it and gave me the one in the pic in this post to replace it, was a more expensive coral from his aquacultured tanks as an appology for what i am about to go thru to get rid of them.. was just saying that was pretty nice on his part, i know i am going to have to treat the tank. he has to treat his also and he had recently put 2 of the corals from the infested tank into his store display without knowing they were on it. he put the whole infested tank on QT for treatment, and next he will have to do his display. he does other pets also and has a vet that works with his store since he sells dogs and cats also so the interceptor will be easy to get from him, he said he would give it to me free since it was his fault he didnt know about them.

Fly Guy · 10-05-2007, 01:49 AM

Agree that was very generous on his part. A lfs can take all reasonable precautions to not sell infected corals, but to be able to succeed at selling pest free livestock 100% of the time is unrealistic..........finding one that will compensate you when it happens is few and far between.

ack ick and a few other nasty things

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