Sponsor Our Community
Go Back   The Reef Tank > Equipment / Methodology related Forums > Large Systems
Have a question? It's Free!

Large Systems Discuss the issues involved in tanks larger than 150 gallons here


Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools
Old 06-29-2007, 03:35 AM   #286
billwann
Little Fishy
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: ill and wis
Posts: 188
Thanks for the words of encouragment ,
I spent many years planning this and keeping other large tanks , I have a 1500 gallon right now , Iam well aware of what humith can do and how to deal with it , not form ideas or what others say but from frist hand experiance and testing , Ive tried HRVs , Big hrvs , seperate heating and cooling systems from teh house , dehumification , they are all worthless as far as iam concerned .
The only way to deal with it right is to seal off teh tank from the rest of teh house , Iam mean seal it off were no air can move betewwn them , Iam using sparyed foam unsulation with a sparyed on vapor barrier and teh covering all the walls on the main floor with FRP board with teh joints seal with silicon for expansion and contraction , The walls below are all epoxy coverd concret .
There is a set of inake louvers that allow air to come in from outside , On teh opiste wall there is a plastic blower to remov eteh humid are , thsi will run all of teh time , hot or cold out . This is teh only way to remove teh humity in teh long terem , mechical ways like AC and dehudifier will just corrode in a matter of week in this enviroment .
Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
billwann is offline  
Old 06-29-2007, 07:07 AM   #287
tims
Admin/ Super mod
 
tims's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: New Castle, Delaware
Posts: 20,364
Images: 224
Wow Bill, there is a Lot more in to doing such a large tank then i would have thought about.
your test picture came out fine.
If you have any problems in your posting please feel free to contact me.
__________________
Tim
need something to read? just ask me.
tims is offline  
Old 06-29-2007, 07:29 AM   #288
tims
Admin/ Super mod
 
tims's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: New Castle, Delaware
Posts: 20,364
Images: 224
Just a freindly reminder to all of the the new comers to TRT. please no flaming at all. most of the time it is how something is worded.
thanks
__________________
Tim
need something to read? just ask me.
tims is offline  
Old 06-29-2007, 09:55 AM   #289
grallster
Ski Bum
 
grallster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Indiana
Posts: 1,138
Images: 1
First of, thanks for sharing such an abitious project with us. Your "buck stops here attitude" is really the only way to go about this project. For the so called experts, designing and building a 1500 gal tank is the extent of their knowledge anyways--and you've already done that--so you are one of the experts.
I'm like you--I'd rather do something myself than have someone else do it for me. But in my case it's not because I'm a perfectionist, it's
because I'm cheap--I'll settle for something less than perfection if I can save a ton of money.
Anyways, you're only getting a tank 10X bigger than your current one--isn't it really the same as going from a 10 gal nano to a 110 gal?

Anyways, I'm only an hour away from Chicago so when you are ready to start putting the rock in there--give me a call! Hell, I'll even supply all the beer just to be able to help!
__________________
grallster is offline  
Old 06-29-2007, 07:13 PM   #290
gwaco
c.a.g. owner and operator
 
gwaco's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: st.pete florida
Posts: 2,311
Images: 490
very nice bill . all i can say about your atitude , is its nice to know i'm not the only out there like that ! i do believe the word my family and friends like to use is "anal" !
its alot easier to fix mistakes when you built it yourself , and not fixing someone elses blunders .
looking forward to the progress .
__________________
save the beach ! go bare bottom ........
gary
gwaco is offline  
Old 06-29-2007, 07:20 PM   #291
20 20
Plankton
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 18
Quote:
Originally Posted by billwann View Post
There is a set of inake louvers that allow air to come in from outside , On teh opiste wall there is a plastic blower to remov eteh humid are , thsi will run all of teh time , hot or cold out . This is teh only way to remove teh humity in teh long terem , mechical ways like AC and dehudifier will just corrode in a matter of week in this enviroment .
I'm originally from Wisconsin, so I know what the weather is like. How are you going to keep the tank warm in January and February with air being pulled in from outside? I've no doubt you've got that figured out, but being a former cheesehead I'm interested in the solution.
20 20 is offline  
Old 06-29-2007, 09:53 PM   #292
spazz
acro addict
 
spazz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: coon rapids
Posts: 2,135
Images: 78
just an FYI that is bill talking there. its not some one else saying they are bill. bill has no time for spell check. he is too busy keeping his business going strong and fighting with carpenters that cant do there jobs right. the concrete work that was done in the pool room is so bad that it has to be done over. along with a ton of other things that are messed up with the construction of the house.
as to the tank. its looking awesome! i would have had pictures of the tank but when i grabbed my camera i didnt look to see if there was a memory card in it. so no pictures. yes yes i know my bad.
the one thing i will say is bill has a vision like no other. this tank will be unbeliveable once it has some time to grow out and get stocked. the final inside dementions of the tank ended up being a little smaller that i had thought but not much. the total tank volume not including all the sumps and support equiptment will end up being just over 10,000 gallons in the tank. with the sumps and support equiptment it will be about 20,000 gallons. give or take a few hundred gallons here and there. lol
i was over at the old house visiting fred the orange rimmed tank. he is now about7-9 lbs and fat as a cow! i think if you put a serving platter next to him he is bigger that the platter. he deffenatly needs to be in a bigger tank. the 1500 gallon tank he is currently in is way too small for him. but for now he is fat and happy. i still cant wait to go swimming with fred. he is not afraid of anyone. he eats right out of my hand. i have to head down bills way in 2-3 weeks and will have my cammera then. including the chip for it. by then the tank should be sealed and the vewing pannels should be ready to install or already installed. then its getting the plumbing and overflows installed and getting the rock in the tank. that alone will take some time.
__________________
aquaticacrylics@aol.com

if fed-x and ups had a class action lawsuit brought against them for freight damages this hobby would be alot cheaper!
spazz is offline  
Old 06-29-2007, 10:57 PM   #293
Sndwave80
Shark
 
Sndwave80's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Western Wisconsin: LaCrosse Area Reef Keepers (LARK)
Posts: 2,608
Images: 27
Reviews: 12
I just realized I am working in the wrong job field! Every thing still looks great.
Sndwave80 is offline  
Old 06-29-2007, 11:05 PM   #294
rppvt
Little Fishy
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Lost Angeles
Posts: 50
Yeah, I can vouch for Spazz- that's Bill and he's not worried about spelling or grammar as much as in raw communication of his massive ideas. I'm a fan (for a while!) of this project and somehow I knew that Bill would be doing all the finish work on this house as well as aquarium himself. It's not onlybetter to do your own work if you know how , it's more fun!
Spazz. I'm sending you a memory card, man!
Glad to see there're some new postings. Spazz, any idea how Bill's going to lay out the rock? Has he got a sketch? is he going to attach it? Suspend it? wrap it around pipe?
Keep up the great work guys!
rppvt is offline  
Old 06-29-2007, 11:28 PM   #295
512148048
lazy reefer
 
512148048's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: MI, clarkston
Posts: 873
heck im only 4 hours from Chicago if you need help pm me id love to see such a huge tank in ones home.
__________________
i cant spell so just go with it

http://www.ebaumsworld.com/dubdub2.html
<a href=http://profile.xfire.com/thebetterhalf><img src=http://miniprofile.xfire.com/bg/bg/type/0/thebetterhalf.png width=440 height=111></a>
512148048 is offline  
Old 06-30-2007, 02:10 AM   #296
RobTheReefer
squid
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: USA
Posts: 1
Lottery winners, geesh!

hehe
RobTheReefer is offline  
Old 06-30-2007, 10:06 AM   #297
LadyReefNeck
Country Living
 
LadyReefNeck's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 2,009
Images: 134
Awesome, awesome, awesome!

Kudos to you Bill!

I can totally relate to your "do-it-myself perfectionist" attitude. I grew up spending alot of my time with my Dad working on projects/jobs of all kinds. He was a jack of all trades and a perfectionist too (especially trim carpentry). I sure learned a lot from him and some of it even rubbed off on me.

Keep up the great work!
__________________
Keri Cantrell (Reefneck) 1961-2008
"If tears could build a stairway and memories a lane, I'd walk right up to heaven and bring you home again."
Louise
LadyReefNeck is offline  
Old 06-30-2007, 12:01 PM   #298
pink516
squid
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 9
Awesome Bill! You are my idol!
pink516 is offline  
Old 06-30-2007, 12:06 PM   #299
Haab
Plankton
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Norway
Posts: 13
Awesome
Haab is offline  
Old 06-30-2007, 02:35 PM   #300
spazz
acro addict
 
spazz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: coon rapids
Posts: 2,135
Images: 78
Quote:
Originally Posted by RobTheReefer View Post
Lottery winners, geesh!

hehe
not to spoil your image of bill but he works for his money just like me and you. he has had alot of time to make his money and build up his business. he has been doing this for over 10 years. he does not have a silver spoon. his family is your average small town working class people that work very hard for what they have. so please dont think that way about him. he is just like me and you, just thinks alot bigger. ha ha ha ha ha
__________________
aquaticacrylics@aol.com

if fed-x and ups had a class action lawsuit brought against them for freight damages this hobby would be alot cheaper!
spazz is offline  
Comparison Shopping
1/10 HP Mini Current USA Prime Inline Chiller w Dual-Stage Thermostat

As low as $378

at 5 sellers

Hagen Fluval 103 Foam Block 2-Pack Fluval A-1430

As low as $1

at 4 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Tropical Science Biolabs Liquid Gravel Vac Marine 16oz

As low as $10

at 7 sellers

Kent Marine Super Iodide 16 oz.

As low as $7

at 17 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Boston Aqua Farms Reef Discs 15 count

As low as $6

at 4 sellers

Tom Aquatics Aquarium Temp Alert Fahrenheit

As low as $10

at 13 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Eheim Coarse Foam for 1250 2 pcs

As low as $4

at 5 sellers

Marineland Magnum 360 C-Series Canister Filter

As low as $7

at 18 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Eheim Filter Pad for 2213 Canister Filter

As low as $3

at 10 sellers

Pentair Aquatics Complete Pond Filter System

As low as $181

at 12 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

San Francisco Bay Brand Freeze Dried Bloodworms 1/2 oz.

As low as $3

at 9 sellers

150 Watt 20000K Metal Halide Bulb - Radium Double Ended

As low as $75

at 8 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Red Sea Max Media - Carbon

As low as $11

at 6 sellers

Seachem Reef Plus 250 ml

As low as $4

at 30 sellers

Members with more than 50 posts don't see this bar

Closed Thread

Tags
acetic acid , aragonite sand , ball valve , bamboo shark , banded bamboo shark , base rock , bubble king , calcium reactor , charles delbeek , coralline algae , fairy wrasse , flow box , flow rate , koi pond , metal halide light , metal halide lights , needle wheel , needle wheel pump , ozone generator , ppm tds , protein skimmer , protien skimmer , pygmy angel , pygmy angels , riser tube , salt creep , silica sand , skimmer pump , sps corals , titanium heat exchanger , water softener


 
You may also search for:

People searched for this, also searched for these:

marine orp
bio sea marine mix
"coast to coast" "Reef"
marine what is orp


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Sitemap:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196
Sponsor Our Community

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:23 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2009, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Our lawyer tells us that, by pressing the "New Thread" or "New Reply" button, you acknowledge that the opinions and information expressed in your article are yours alone and not those of thereeftank.com, dba The Reef Tank. Further, you agree to indemnify The Reef Tank, its moderators, administrators and agents from any and all liability which may arise as a result of your article. (C)opyright 2006 TheReefTank.com
 
close
Sign up for free and join one of the largest communities of saltwater aquarists!
Our members will be glad to help you with anything you need!

Join over 30,000 TRT members!

Email

Email Confirm Email
Username
Password Confirm Password

I agree to the website rules