Sponsor Our Community
Go Back   The Reef Tank > Equipment / Methodology related Forums > Large Systems

Large Systems Discuss the issues involved in tanks larger than 150 gallons here


Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 04-06-2006, 11:19 AM   #1
Twitterbait
Professor Chaos
 
Twitterbait's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Arkham Asylum
Posts: 9,683
Images: 1

Extras of having a large system?


So besides the larger tank and increased area produced by having a large tank... what are some of the extra things/goodies that you can have with a large tank. any equipment that just dosn't work on smaller tanks?
Registered Members don't see these ads. Register now it's free!
__________________
I mix twinkies and ding dongs all the time, in Europe they call it a Dinky -- Homer Simpson
Twitterbait is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006, 02:35 PM   #2
ski1297
Shark
 
ski1297's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: waukesha, Wisconsin
Posts: 1,294
Sharks and a skimmer as big as you!
ski1297 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006, 07:46 AM   #3
skeety
Tang Lover
 
skeety's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Rockville, MD
Posts: 7,283
Images: 144
not sure about equipment.

I think the BIG plus is the opening in options when it comes to livestock.

I've DREAMED of having an Achilles tang...which really is NOT an option until you get into the larger systems. So that's what I'm gonna do. Build my in-wall 330, and make that dream come true.

but not just an opening of options, but a difference in quantity too.

I started out in this hobby, and knew you couldn't keep many fish in a 20 or 30 gal system. So I gave in, and bought a 75...biggest tank I'd ever owned up until then. Thinking I could load it up.

While waiting for it to cycle, I found TRT, and was sad to find out...that my newly aquired mega-tank (in my eyes), was really mid-sized at best. And that I'd probably only be able to keep a few fish.

That was a bit heartbreaking to me. But when you get into the larger tanks...suddenly you can get a school of Chromis, or MORE than one tang (if done right). It's a whole new world.

But as far as equipment...only thing(s) I can really think of are Tunze's Streams and wave-makes (good ones). When the tanks bigger, you suddenly have the option of adding this type of equipment.

But other stuff...I think you can do on a smaller tank too. Lights, skimmer, Ca reactor, etc...
__________________
skeety is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006, 11:46 AM   #4
Twitterbait
Professor Chaos
 
Twitterbait's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Arkham Asylum
Posts: 9,683
Images: 1
I was looking at some and saw Plankton reactors and large fluidized sand bed filters as an example.
__________________
I mix twinkies and ding dongs all the time, in Europe they call it a Dinky -- Homer Simpson
Twitterbait is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006, 05:12 PM   #5
VWD
BIG SMELLY MOD
 
VWD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Livingston Parish, Denham Springs, Louisiana
Posts: 16,775
Images: 421
Larger tanks are cool and do cost alot more to start. Need more rock, Sand if You want sand, Bigger pumps , Salt, more lighting , it all add up pretty fast. so a good thing to have is a bigger budget.
__________________


Vince aka VINNIE
VWD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-12-2006, 12:56 AM   #6
Kent E.
Shark
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: .
Posts: 1,339
You need pumps for sure! I have 4 darts. Waterchanges take an entire bucket of salt, and huge skimmers.
Kent E. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-20-2006, 11:16 AM   #7
dgasmd
Just trying to learn
 
dgasmd's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: South FL
Posts: 118
You do have to upsize equipment significantly and change your mentality completely. When you get good flow with 4 powerheads in a 30g tank does not work well with 40 powerheads in a 300g tank. HOwever, if done right, the equipment actually does become more efficient. Electricity use is a huge concern and a huge bill too. It can get out of hand very easily. Other expenses increase as well like tap water filters (RO prefilters, carbon filter, DI), salt, carbon, PO4 removers, etc. The biggest increase by far is electricity!!

Ont he other hand, it provides something you cannot get with a smaller tank: plenty of room for fish and corals. You get fish to act a lot more naturally, something you don't even realize or know until you get a large tank and add 30 anthias in it.
dgasmd is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-22-2006, 12:56 PM   #8
monkeyreefer
Little Fishy
 
monkeyreefer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: michiana
Posts: 122
Quote:
Originally Posted by skeety
I've DREAMED of having an Achilles tang...which really is NOT an option until you get into the larger systems. So that's what I'm gonna do. Build my in-wall 330, and make that dream come true.
I would have to kindly disagree here, keeping achilles tangs all comes down to husbandry. I kept one in a 90 for a year and a half with no issues what so ever. Granted it is now in a 300 and still happy. The key is to find a good specimen from the start. Since they are delicate shippers, many come in near death to begin with. Nets are a no no with these fish as well as it will actually damage the fish's "skin". I also provided a lot of current to keep the tang happy as well, remember that these fish come from surge zones in the reef, so it is best to try to mimic these conditions as much as possible. Lots of room to swim in and out of rocks is a must as well. Oh, and on top of it all you have to feed regularly. Low nutrient tanks are not the best place for an achilles IMHO .
__________________
300 inwall mixed reef
monkeyreefer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2006, 08:44 AM   #9
motorslave
The Ninja MOD
 
motorslave's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Planet P.....Why Me?
Posts: 12,051
You end up with more room for sure with a bigger system but Ive been in the middle of re-doing my 150 and am realy leaning in the direction of simplicity. I have a large skimmer, CA reactor, chiller and an extra tank plumbed in in a constant by-passable circuit for water changes but thats about it. Auto top off will be done through the RO/DI and the whole system will be hooked in to the house water and sewer for ease of miantainence. Ive seen awesome tanks with tons of plumbing and every do-hicky on the market, then Ive seen awesome tanks with simple set up designs too. For me the simpler it is to keep the better!

Robet
__________________
After 2 years I finally have water in it! (no, really)!
Where is Planet P?
motorslave is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-15-2006, 11:18 PM   #10
fchidsey
Big Fishy
 
fchidsey's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Lantana Florida
Posts: 805
Images: 5
I love the idea of a huge 300 but then it becomes 500 and so on. I am afraid of the FPL bill.
__________________
Tank Specs: 57 gal Oceanic 36x18x22 tall, 36" t-5 lights plus 24 " PC. 20 gal sump, sealife skimmer 5 gal ref. Mag 12 to display and 1/5 horse chiller, 15 W UV
fchidsey is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
achilles tang



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Sitemap:1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181
Sponsor Our Community

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Our lawyer tells us that, by pressing the "New Thread" or "New Reply" button, you acknowledge that the opinions and information expressed in your article are yours alone and not those of thereeftank.com, dba The Reef Tank. Further, you agree to indemnify The Reef Tank, its moderators, administrators and agents from any and all liability which may arise as a result of your article. (C)opyright 2006 TheReefTank.com