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Old 08-20-2011, 11:55 PM   #1
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EXPERTS ONLY: Banded Cat Shark Questions


I'm sure everyone has once dreamed to have a shark tank. Well I want to make that dream a reality for me. I have researched alot on banded cat sharks and bamboo sharks but I'm looking for some input from expert hobbyists on this. Would a bamboo or banded cat shark be better? Which can be put in a smaller tank?


As many sites say, a tank of at least 180 gallons is ok for one banded cat shark ... I don't buy it. I want a tank big enough for a banded cat shark to live all its life in. I was thinking of something like a 300 gallon tank but many sites say different things. I was hoping to have a few fish with the shark, which leads me to my next question. - What fish can I house with one??

I was thinking of these:
Harlequin Tuskfish
Imperator Angelfish
Blue Girdled Angelfish
Banded Snake Eel
Blue Spotted Stingray

Would those be okay in a 300 gallon? Any suggestions or comments? Or is there any fish I could put in with the shark from my current tank? (See at the bottom)


Another question is a banded cat shark reef safe? I've read an article stating that a banded cat shark can be kept in a reef tank as long as there is enough space for it.



Next question, what is a good estimated amount of money to buy a tank-raised banded cat shark, a 300 gallon aquarium including everything I need (stand, pumps, filters, sand, etc.) I don't plan on buying now but I plan on saving money for it to buy in the future.



Questions Overview:

1) Which is more hardier, a bamboo or banded cat shark?

2) Which one requires a smaller tank to live its WHOLE life in?

3) How many gallons can one be kept in for its WHOLE life?

4) Compatibility?

5) Reef safe?

6) Estimated amount of cost?




Lastly, is there any information you would like to share or something I should know before taking on this challenge?

I would love to hear some feedback on this thread as I know lots of people will be searching this in the future, and feel free to message me on here.

Thanks for your time and god bless,



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Old 08-21-2011, 02:41 AM   #2
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1) Which is more hardier, a bamboo or banded cat shark? As for hardier, the reason they are hard to keep is they are sensitive to water params and some refuse to eat once in captivity. You can actually get shark eggs and hatch them and go from there on feeding. Ive heard they are fun to watch grow, but they can grow up to 12" per year until full grown.

2) Which one requires a smaller tank to live its WHOLE life in? Minimum STATED size is 180g. They say this because the sharks need ample room to swim on the bottom of the tank and room enough to turn around. The Cat shark gets to be about 3' in captivity and when you have a smaller tank that dont have the depth, imagine it full grown trying to turn around. Their bodies may be cartilage, but that still might be a bit stressing to them. A good size tank would be 300g, and best tank would be an oval tank with no edges to bump noses on.

The smaller shark would be the Coral banded shark, check them out here, smaller than the bamboo and cat.

3) How many gallons can one be kept in for its WHOLE life? Whole life, if you have a deep tank (like most frag tanks that are square'ish), a 180g would be adequate. If its a standard tank then try to shoot for a 300g. If you are starting and can get the tank FOR the shark, go 300g.

4) Compatibility? They are docile fish cruising around the bottom mostly, keep them fed and you wont find it munching on its tank mates. Other ground dwelling fish will be on its radar if it decides it wants something to grub on. DONT keep a Trigger or Puffer as they will nip at his fins. The ones I cared for at the LFS I worked at, we had Groupers, Angels, butterfly, Tangs, Lions, Squirrels, Foxface/Rabbit, Hawkfish and an Eel.

5) Reef safe? No, they can be kept I guess if well fed, but they eat crustaceans, invertebrates, and small fishes. Most of these are common in a reef tank and you never know if it will find a coral to become a tasty morsel since its on the bottom and easy pickings.

6) Estimated amount of cost? Just for the shark? Cat shark is about $60, egg is $50. The Coral Cat Shark I mentioned is about $175, Marbled Bamboo is about $80. For the price on the tank and all you would need its hard to say because the main thing is the size of the tank. You can find good deals on Clist or even from the LFS downsizing.

Your list that you have is good for having a shark. You will need to spot dfeed the shark since they dont really compete with the other fish, and the Ray as well. A good pair of tongs will work for that. The Harlequin tusk is a hard fish to keep from what Ive heard too.
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Old 08-21-2011, 07:54 AM   #3
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1) Which is more hardier, a bamboo or banded cat shark? from my understanding the bamboo shark is a banded cat shark just with different colorations and about 50 bucks more. if you get them as an egg it will be harder to keep them. only because you have to train them to eat. they can go for a week or two with out eating after they are born and youll get worried. you have to be persistent with attempting to feed them cause the one day you skip an effort to feed is the day theyll want to eat and kick the bucket from starvation. i would try to get one that is already hatched and eating on its own.

2) Which one requires a smaller tank to live its WHOLE life in? they both will require the same amount of space. however quikz06 brought up a good point about the coral cat shark. they are a little smaller and need less space.
3) How many gallons can one be kept in for its WHOLE life? the minimum reccomended gallons is 180. but dont get that. if you want the shark to be happy and prosper you need a long wide and deep tank. at least 6ft minimum and to be safe at least 2 ft wide. it needs space to swim and turn around since they can get to be atleast 3' in captivity.

4) Compatibility? they can and will try to eat anything they can fit in their mouths. regardless of what it is. i had one try to eat a porcupine puffer and did a good job until the puffer blew up. dont get anything else aggressive that will patrol the sandbed because the shark will take over and youll have a pissing battle. as long as the fish are bigger than the shark it wont bother them. try to avoid fish that could potentially harm the fish. i would suggest larger fish such as angels and tangs.

5) Reef safe? with caution. they will eat crustaceans and small fish.

6) Estimated amount of cost? depending on size youre looking at 50 for an egg and up to 80 for a newly hatched shark. one that is eating on its own and that has been trained can cost more depending on what it eats. i trained one to eat frozen cubes and fish in about 5 weeks. so it was still rather small and ate very well. i
its a fun investment but if your gonna do it, do it right. the shark shouldnt suffer because you want one. the one i take care of now is very friendly and when i visit to clean his home he comes out to play and runs through my hands. they are beautiful creatures. they are not very fast and with a tank just big enough for the shark i would try to avoid triggerfish. they have a tendency to bite. lol. small groupers will be ok as long as they are added last. good luck on your sharky
also a good way for feeding a new shark is to attach some small live fish to some tongs or the medical scissor looking things that lock shut when you close them (i forget the name.) i teach the sharks i hatch to eat live neon tetras by hand. then i move to larger fish and start mixing in some frozen food every now and then.
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Old 08-21-2011, 10:09 AM   #4
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Thanks guys and especially to Quik Z06, I am now planning on housing a coral catshark as then are more active swimmers and smaller than a bamboo or banded catsharks. I don't plan on getting an egg but I plan on buying a tank-raised one if that's possible, and probably a juvenile so I can watch it grow.

For tankmates for the shark, would it be possible two house two in a 300 gallon? I was thinking of maybe breeding them because I think it would be cool to be a shark breeder. I was also thinking of maybe having an remora? I'm not sure if it will be a good idea but it was a thought.

For a reef tank, I'd probably hold off on that for now because I can always change to a reef tank easily but not as easy vice versa.


I'm going to do more research now on the Coral Catshark, I'd like to hear any informationyou guys find with a link would be greatly appreciated.

Once again, thanks guys and god bless.
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Old 08-21-2011, 10:13 AM   #5
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Oh whoops forgot to ask something, what type of tank would be suitable? A cylinder, bow front, standard rectangular??

Also are sharks sensitive to the lighting? I don't plan on putting corals yet but I heard metal haildes bring out more color to the aquarium.
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just go with a rectangle so you can get more footage out of it. and dont blast the sharks with lighting. just enough to penetrate to the bottom of the tank will be sufficient.
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Old 08-21-2011, 04:05 PM   #7
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Ok, how would I decorative the tank? A cave in a corner, open swimming room, some kelp or algae in a corner?
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Just do rockwork in the center as they need the room to swim around the tank. If you have overhangs it could hide in there. I believe you can do 2 in a 300, we had a guy with 2f 1m in a 500 to breed. He lost the male to cancer though.

If you are building a tank for them look to see if you can get the oval so they don't bump their noses on the corners.
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I think breeding sharks would be cool, so if it would be possible to to house a female and a male in a 300 gallon I'll be happier than a kid on Christmas Day!

As for the tank I find it more expensive to buy a curved tank than one with corners but I guess if I should house them I should take every precaution. And would it be possible if I could use my current 90 gallon tank as a refugium for a 300 gallon shark tank? Instead of buying another tank for a sump?
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Old 08-23-2011, 05:46 PM   #10
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Opinions on thess tanks?

http://www.getahugetank.com/used-tal...um-p-2564.html

http://www.getahugetank.com/120x36x48-p-128.html
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I think you can find them cheaper especially since the first one is used. My LFS just sold 6 1500g tanks complete setups for 8k.
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Dang plus shipping would be a b****. I guess I would have to find a LFS with big tanks or go to a tank builder
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OR, you can always look into pools.... (just an idea)

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I like the pool idea, much cheaper, but not much for a centerpiece in a house...cant see through the sides lol.
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