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Old 03-17-2010, 01:14 PM   #1
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150 gallon reef tank


i currently have a small saltwater reef tank set up. i want more stuff but done have anyplace to put more corals. i have a 150 gallon aquarium in my basement that i would love to turn into a reef. i want to know what i NEED to run the tank as a successful reef. then separate from what i need i want to know what is recommended. currently i have a Rena XP3 canister filter meant for 175 gallon aquarium it cycle 300gph. i also have a large air pump a tiny UV sterilizer. i have some large marine land hang on filters as well but i am assuming a sump is gonna be recommended so please give some feedback.

currently i know i need live rock about 100lbs i presume and live sand for a three inch deep sand-bed. so please every bit of info for this is highly appreciated.
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Old 03-17-2010, 01:52 PM   #2
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welcome to TRT. In order to give you the best advice, we'll need to know more about what you want to keep in the tank. A successful setup is very much dependent on the corals or fish you intend to keep, and hardware suggestions will follow right in line with those decisions.

To begin, though, most of the hardware you have right now is likely inadequate for a 150 gallon reef tank. You'll need lighting, a sump is a great idea, a protein skimmer would definitely help (I personally think they're a necessity for long term tank success), something for water flow (search for Tunze, Vortech, or Korallia pumps for in-tank water movement), and something for temperature management (usually a heater is fine).
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:05 PM   #3
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thanks for the reply i want to have a lot of life in my tank. i was thinking a this for my tank.
the fish.
Royal Gramma
Red Scooter Blennie
Blue Dot Jaw Fish
Catalina Goby
Neon Cleaner Goby
diamond prawn goby
True Percula Clownfish
Sixline Wrasse
Three Stripe Damselfish
Coral Beauty Angelfish
Blue Hippo Tang
Watchman Goby
Sailfin Tang
Naso tang
Bellus angel
Scotts fairy wrasse
the inverts
various snails
hermit crabs
sand sifting starfish
skunk cleaner shrimp
coral
xenia
mushrooms
ricordia
zoanthids
and maybe some lower light brain coral.

i figured i would need 150 to 200 lbs of live rock
a 3 inch bed of a mixture of live sand and crushed coral.
a sump of about 40 to 75 gallons
a light fixture 72 inches long that holds at least 6 flourescent T-5s
a large skimmer
a high power heater
a sump pump
and a few powerheads.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:23 PM   #4
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Are you sure you don't want a Baluga whale too.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:29 PM   #5
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yeah no whales. lol. i just gave a list of fish corals and inverts id like. i wont have enough room for all of them obviously. but i was just suggesting what could possible take residence in my tank. i like alot of soft corals i have always love blue and naso tangs. i like watching things grow up. im not a complete newbie to the aquarium trade im just to to reefs. i have never had the time nor the money available to have a reef. now that i have that i can start getting one ready. i just want all the advice i can get. so every little bit helps.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:29 PM   #6
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Welcome to TRT.

Personally I am delighted to see another 150 gallon tank going up. Mine is pretty new (6 mo+) and currently a FOWLR.

"A high power heater" could be your last purchase. The rest look right up there for the set-up.

(Individual preference) I added in roughly this order-spacing the additions out and starting small and building up - a couple of clownfish after cycling completed. (Pink and blue spotted) goby, royal gramma basslet, (pygmy cherub) angel, sailfin tang, a couple of cleaner shrimp, and foxface.

After a bit I got the "bug" and added a mandarin, flame angel, and blue linckia sea star. I have my eye on an emperor angelfish and last (for me, maybe) blue hippo tang.

The addition of angels that resemble each other or similar shaped tangs can create competition among fish. You can always handle that by swapping out fish with other hobbiest.

You've got the tank, salt, and a plan. Good luck. I'll be interested in your progress.

P.S. You know to use RODI water and that a hydrometer measures salinity very accurately, I'm sure.
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:40 PM   #7
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yes i know about hydrometers. in my small tank i have a baby blue tang about an inch long she is growing pretty qiuck it seems and i would hate to have her in their much longer the way i see it in a few months she is gonna be way to big for the tank she is currently in. i always had a thing for raising small young fish to size before moving them to a bigger aquarium. i used to do a lot of Amazon aquariums. Oscars discus piranhas and some large catfish. i love the ocean and thought id bring it to northern illinois instead of going to Florida just to see it. but i love tangs always have. blues are my favorite and right next to that is a naso. i like crazy colored and active fish. which is a reason why i switched to saltwater. i had so many different species of freshwater fish in my life it got way to easy id like to take a shot on a large reef system to challenge myself a little more. which is why i will take any and all advice available.
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Old 03-18-2010, 10:41 AM   #8
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i was also wondering if i would need a UV sterilizer or if the tank can go without it?
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:03 AM   #9
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great list of fish! the only one I would question would be the Catalina Goby as they are a colder water species, although I have had one in my tank for about 6 mths, they are supposed to be kept in a 60-70 range tank. mines's an awsome fish and seems to be ok at 76.5 for now, but when the summer hits and the tank gets set to about 80 I'm not sure about him being a long term fish
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Old 03-30-2010, 12:49 AM   #10
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i am assuming a sump is gonna be recommended so please give some feedback.

currently i know i need live rock about 100lbs i presume and live sand for a three inch deep sand-bed. so please every bit of info for this is highly appreciated.
Go with the sump setup. You will be dissapointed in the long run if you don't.

If you don't already have one you are going to want to invest in a RO/DI Filter with a tank that large.

1. Is the tank drilled? If not you will need overflow boxes
2. DIY Sump
3. Return Pump
4. protein skimmer
5. 1.5 - 2 lbs/gallon live rock
6. If you are going to go with 3 inches of sand you might as well go with more for a true DSB. I personally don't believe in the benefits of this but that is another topic. 1-2 inches is enough.
7. 2 Strong power heads (Koralia 4 or 2 MP-40's)
8. 2 250W metal halide's 4 t5ho actinics

That is just to get started. It will get your water moving and filtered with all the lighting you should need.

You don't need a UV sterilizer. There benefit is questionable at best.
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Old 03-30-2010, 03:25 AM   #11
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i was also wondering if i would need a UV sterilizer or if the tank can go without it?
I have a 6x2x2 reef system which has been running for two years and I took my uv off ages ago i run a external filled with live rock, I figure with a very good skimmer running, plenty of live rock, good water husbandry, why remove absoutly everything good and bad in your system,I have NEVER had a alge problem, itch anything hope this helps
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