which salt??? - Page 3

Kevin1000 · 03-15-2005, 09:19 PM

If you read the Shimek article closely ... all it says is that certain salt mixtures are more toxic to urchin larvae --- no testing done on fish or corals --- to extrapolate or conclude that a particular salt mixture is great for a reef tank based soley on what happens to urchin larvae is not very logical.

Lowman · 03-15-2005, 09:20 PM

I think i saw the Ocean Pure salt and the Crystal sea mixes at Hollywood.

Lowman · 03-15-2005, 09:31 PM

Makes you wonder if Dr. Ron is biased for some reason...............

jennmac415 · 03-15-2005, 09:33 PM

ok, ok I think I am justy gonna use table salt. Didn't mean to cause such a "stir" haha get it- as in "stir the salt"

Lowman · 03-15-2005, 09:37 PM

Funny I think it boils down to preference. Just like everything else in this hobby, we all have our "go to" products and tend to stick with them because in some way they have made us happy with our individual results. I am not planning on changing salt mixes anytime soon. i like my Coral Life and I don't care if it scored 26 out of 100 on the test, it does me just fine.

If it ever fails me, then i'll go to table salt, Kosher of course

Sea monkey · 03-15-2005, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Kevin1000

If you read the Shimek article closely ... all it says is that certain salt mixtures are more toxic to urchin larvae --- no testing done on fish or corals --- to extrapolate or conclude that a particular salt mixture is great for a reef tank based soley on what happens to urchin larvae is not very logical.

you are 100% right and anyone who says the s-15 tests might be biased because aqua craft were the ones who hired them are also right .however because no other salt company is willing to undergo independent testing , these are the only real tests we have to go by.

*this is my own personal opinion , take it for what its worth*

Personally i think that every salt company there is has done its own in-house testing . if they have not they really are bad businessmen. that said , if their own in-house testing reveled they had a better salt that is closer to natural seawater than the rest they would move for a independent testing IMMEDIATELY and post it EVERYWHERE, like aqua craft did ....why would they not , why would these companies not do this testing? seems to be the only reason you would not want independent public testing like this is because you already know what the results will be from your own in-house testing. like i said this is all pure conjecture but this is all the companies have left us with because they refuse to do any real testing.

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all it says is that certain salt mixtures are more toxic to urchin larvae --- no testing done on fish or corals ---

again this is true , but we have no other tests to go by that show the effects on fish and corals and that test is probably much more time consuming and costly .there still is information for us to be gained here, when you see salts like IO failed miserably to keep other saltwater organisms alive and other salts preformed almost as well as their natural environment .

Sea monkey · 03-15-2005, 10:57 PM

I have obviously fallen for their hype : )

reefcam · 03-16-2005, 02:00 AM

funny how many of the test will say "Natural Sea Water", but doesn't say the source of the water. So should I assume that the Ocean water is uniformly the same quality. Then I would say, stop buying salt and just head to the cost and get your water there. That'll be the cheapest and best. But I'll bet it's not.

Sea monkey · 03-16-2005, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by reefcam

funny how many of the test will say "Natural Sea Water", but doesn't say the source of the water. So should I assume that the Ocean water is uniformly the same quality. Then I would say, stop buying salt and just head to the cost and get your water there. That'll be the cheapest and best. But I'll bet it's not.

it is the best, if you get it far enough off the coast that there is no pollution.

clpcgamer · 05-09-2005, 06:37 PM

Has anyone tested IO for Calcium? I'm new to the Marine Reef and when I test it after mixing it is very low in Calcium. I get a reading of only about 300 - 330.

drock59 · 05-09-2005, 09:57 PM

what kind of test kit? From what i understand IO is supposed to be either high in Calc and low alk, or vice versa. cant remember

impur · 05-10-2005, 11:06 AM

Its low in calcium and good in alk. I still think oceanic is the way to go, especially if you get a good bucket. I thought maybe my last one had some of the algae spores or whatever is causing ppl problems, but that has since gone away. Just got a new jug and going strong.

drock59 · 05-10-2005, 12:11 PM

i went oceanic to start the tnak i have now and have never had so much algae. Im sticking with IO from now on.

suzstephens · 05-10-2005, 04:25 PM

I use Oceanic most of the time and like it. I've used most all the common brands including Woody's and have had no problems with any of them. However, I keep only a few of the hardier sps corals, so I'm not as likely to run into problems. I often find myself using freshly mixed Oceanic which, according to Oceanic's hype, is OK. No problems here, but again, no delicate sps corals.