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11-14-2004, 09:26 PM
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Aiptasia frag farmer
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: portland
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10 gallon tank with 5.5 fuge how to?
I am currently running a 10 gallon nano tank. I am interested in turning my old 5.5 glass tank into a fuge thats sits below in the stand. I have not a clue on what parts are needed or where to buy them? I would assume I need some kind of overflow box inside the tank and some kind of pump to sit inside of the fuge.
Anyone see any weblinks that might help me in this?
I would also be able to pay someone in frags (softies) or beer if they could come over and help me get this working.
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11-14-2004, 10:17 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: milwaukie, OR
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Have you thought about a HOB fuge for your nano? I think that would work better for ya if ya got the room on the back of your tank.Phil
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11-14-2004, 10:24 PM
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Aiptasia frag farmer
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: portland
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Originally Posted by Phil21
Have you thought about a HOB fuge for your nano? I think that would work better for ya if ya got the room on the back of your tank.Phil
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Yeah, I was looking to get an AC300 or 500 but I thought the extra volume of a 5.5 might be a little better. I could also use a gravity fed doser inside my stand. I might go the hang on the back route if I could find a ac300 or better for cheap.
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11-14-2004, 10:45 PM
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Clubs Forums Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Chef at Adidas USA Headquarters
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it would be easiest if one or the other tank could be drilled... are they both glass?
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11-14-2004, 10:47 PM
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Aiptasia frag farmer
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: portland
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Originally Posted by Krux
it would be easiest if one or the other tank could be drilled... are they both glass?
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Yes.
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11-14-2004, 10:50 PM
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Clubs Forums Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2003
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then you would be best served by getting a hang on back overflow for the display, and running it down to the fuge, using it the same way you would a regular sump flow wise, but instead plant it with macros, have sand and some rock rubble etc.
bijjy might have some spare overflow boxes, i saw one or two over at his place, not sure what he is doing with them, but he might be willing to sell one of them.
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11-14-2004, 11:06 PM
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Aiptasia frag farmer
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: portland
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Sounds good. My only nit would be the size of the overflow box. I woud want it as small as I could get away with.
So my next question would be what size pump? I would like it to be enough flow so I wouldn't need to run a power head in the main tank. The other issue I guess would be how fast the water would be running through the sump. The longer contact with the sand/cheato/live rock combo the better, correct?
Also what would I drill on the sump? Cant I just put the tube straight in the tank? |
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11-14-2004, 11:31 PM
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Clubs Forums Moderator
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if you do a hang on back overflow no drilling is needed in either tank.
you could get away with a big powerhead, or a small submersible pump, such as a mag 2 or 3. you want long contact time, but your average powerhead has a hard time pushing against 4 or 5 feet of head, so you need to use something fairly robust.
for more flow, you could design a really easy hang on back over the top closed loop powered by a mag 3, that would give you all the flow you want. if you plumb it in 1/2" pvc it would be very small and unobtrusive.
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11-14-2004, 11:39 PM
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Aiptasia frag farmer
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: portland
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Sounds like you could use some beers  |
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11-14-2004, 11:40 PM
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Aiptasia frag farmer
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: portland
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Ok, Now I really have my homework in front of me. I have no idea what a closed loop means.
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11-15-2004, 12:21 PM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Eugene
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Closed loop takes water from the tank and just returns it to the tank. Water does not exit the loop until its back in the tank, hence closed loop. 
I also was going to do a 3-5 gal sump for my 10 gal. I ended up going with the HOB AC500 fuge and its great. I got the surface skimmer attachment and the flow is perfect. I use the fuge to grow out frags but will be adding macro soon.
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11-15-2004, 12:30 PM
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Aiptasia frag farmer
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: portland
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Yeah, it looks like I am just going to stick with that setup. The cost of the plumbing/pump and the hassle is starting to sway me in that direction. Anyone have a ac500 laying around?
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11-15-2004, 12:34 PM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Eugene
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You can get a new one at Petsmart for like $32. Just print out the AC500 and its price off their website and take it to the store. They honor the web prices too. In the store its like $75.
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11-15-2004, 12:37 PM
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Aiptasia frag farmer
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: portland
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Originally Posted by impur
You can get a new one at Petsmart for like $32. Just print out the AC500 and its price off their website and take it to the store. They honor the web prices too. In the store its like $75.
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Wow... Thats good.
Did you shave down the impeller? Or is it stock on your 10 gallon?
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11-15-2004, 02:18 PM
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Clubs Forums Moderator
Join Date: Apr 2003
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you have to print the page the day you go, they will only honor it if the same day's date is on the bottom of the page.
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