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11-19-2006, 04:32 PM
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Coral Killer
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: CT
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You guys are funny! Heres how to fix your tank:
1. Go on vacation
2. Let me care for your tank
3. I'll feed it so much you'll get chills half way around the world
4. Return and become shocked at the rich colors your tank developed
NoScwhag tried it, he can vouch!
Honestly I can't understand all these "my corals are too light" threads. Go buy a herd of Anthias, or a dwarf lion, or a herd of fat tangs(like me) and feed them until they love you!
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Last edited by REEF-DADDY; 11-19-2006 at 06:40 PM.
Reason: too much beer
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11-19-2006, 04:46 PM
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#92
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Upgrade-Fever
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 616
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I'm still waiting for my giant school of Apogons
Leonardo
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11-19-2006, 06:43 PM
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The Border Collie Mod
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: right now? in my chair
Posts: 13,218
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimbo
I think I'm imaginating things the coral on the left seems to be dying not growing
What to do next, I been feeding the fish plenty.
Downgrade my lighting
What should I go with a 250 or 175 watt
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Jim, don't make a lot of changes fast. Just stop, slow down, and think about what's happening. Then you can adjust the equipment you have to make it work.
Really, there's a lot of different equipment out there and most all of it will get the job done. People that are successful, are just people that have learned how to work their tank and their equipment.
Almost everyone has corals die on them. Keep working with the ones that live for you.
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11-19-2006, 06:48 PM
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The Border Collie Mod
Join Date: Feb 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by REEF-DADDY
Honestly I can't understand all these "my corals are too light" threads. Go buy a herd of Anthias, or a dwarf lion, or a herd of fat tangs(like me) and feed them until they love you!
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Me either.
I keep trying to tell people that the reason I got rid of the DSB and started this whole SB thing, was that I could not keep enough fish, could not really feed the ones I did have, and got tired of my stupid sand bed acting up every time I tried to feed the fish right.
Now I have a ton of fish, and the amount of food I feed them each day would give most people a heart attack.
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11-19-2006, 07:22 PM
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c.a.g. owner and operator
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: st.pete florida
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Originally Posted by Spanky
Me either.
I keep trying to tell people that the reason I got rid of the DSB and started this whole SB thing, was that I could not keep enough fish, could not really feed the ones I did have, and got tired of my stupid sand bed acting up every time I tried to feed the fish right.
Now I have a ton of fish, and the amount of food I feed them each day would give most people a heart attack.
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but i think that part of the problem is that someone reads this thread and the comments , and thinks hey it works for them , so i'll just feed alot more . then they are discouraged because things get worse ! not once do they ever think about that skimmer thats two sizes too small for their tank in the first place . for some reason folks think they can get away with a $200 skimmer on their 200 gallon tank and then p.o.ed at us because we said - feed more .
also , spanks i got that info you asked about  ! i just have to figure out how to transfer them , then i will p.m. you . its amazing how no one notices a 9 yr old  !
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11-19-2006, 07:55 PM
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The Border Collie Mod
Join Date: Feb 2001
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LOL are you teaching your daughter bad things?
.....do not ever tell her that uncle Spanky was behind it!
I agree 100% with everything you just posted. That's why I said this:
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People that are successful, are just people that have learned how to work their tank and their equipment.
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I guess somehow it needs to be worded "feed as much as you can take right back out" or something like that.
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11-19-2006, 09:54 PM
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c.a.g. owner and operator
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: st.pete florida
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Spanky
LOL are you teaching your daughter bad things?
.....do not ever tell her that uncle Spanky was behind it!
I agree 100% with everything you just posted. That's why I said this:
I guess somehow it needs to be worded "feed as much as you can take right back out" or something like that.
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bad things ! no waaayyyy  ! she just wanted to make sure it was done right  ! she wonders why she does'nt ever get to see her uncle anymore  !check your p.m. box 
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11-20-2006, 12:17 AM
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Klingon
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Forest Grove, OR
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Thanks I needed to rethink things. I know that the amount of light is a problem since I had the frags under a overhang and they where doing fine. I checked my nitrates and they are 0. So I'm not feeding too much, but it will take time for changes made to affect the water column, must wait and see. Take a deep breath
My skimmer strips the water column
I reduced the MH to just 2 hours a day. Now wait a week or two and see.
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11-20-2006, 07:45 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: newyork
Posts: 90
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can carbon play a role in sps getting lighter?
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11-20-2006, 07:49 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Red Sox Nation
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I doubt it as long as host and the zoox. are jiving. If there is already a problem there it seem's more likley.
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11-20-2006, 08:29 PM
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The Border Collie Mod
Join Date: Feb 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by trueblackpercula
can carbon play a role in sps getting lighter?
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yes, it actually can.
Again, not for the reasons that most people seem to think. Not from removing something too fast, but adding something too fast. Just like phosphate removers.
Carbon can add phosphate and iron very fast, which can shock zoox or cause zoox to start producing more, which can cause corals to expel them.
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11-20-2006, 08:34 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: newyork
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thats what i did . it makes CENTS now...... I added half a container of two little fishes hydro carbon to the tank about two weeks ago......... should i take it out of the sump and add just a little bit and if so how much 1/8 of a cup 1/4 ETC.
wow thats has to be it.........it was the only thing i added to the tank.
Michael
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11-20-2006, 08:40 PM
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The Border Collie Mod
Join Date: Feb 2001
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Michael, do this with the carbon.
Soak it in a lot of RO/DI or distilled water for a couple of days and do a few water changes on it first. It won't effect how the carbon works, but it will leach most of the ash out before you use it.
How big's your tank?
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11-20-2006, 08:48 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: newyork
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are you talking about new carbon or the old carbon
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11-20-2006, 08:52 PM
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The Border Collie Mod
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New carbon, before you ever use it. Soak and do a few water changes with RO/DI or distilled first.
How big is your tank? and how big is a 1/2 container of hydrocarbon??
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