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12-13-2006, 07:34 PM
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Just some guy, you know?
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Yeah, I remember the whole thing well. Good thing too, since you can't view it anymore.
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Ya the whole thing is sad, but it's why we have this fourm and why we have GregT so it's not all bad.
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12-13-2006, 07:43 PM
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AKA Scooterman
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Originally Posted by Wiskey
That's going to the extream!!! I never had any algae, never had detectable phosphate, and did not have problems with rock sheading though,...
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Then the only problems you had was bleaching & STN?
Why are you saying BB would be the cause of that?
Oh one more, rocks shed they all do when they carry living bacteria.
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12-13-2006, 07:57 PM
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Just some guy, you know?
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Originally Posted by BuckWheat
Then the only problems you had was bleaching & STN?
Why are you saying BB would be the cause of that?
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I could never solve this problem in my BB tank, but never had this problem in any sand bed tank. It's hardly conclusave evidince I know, but that's why I was saying that it didn't work for me.
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Oh one more, rocks shed they all do when they carry living bacteria.
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I mean I didn't have excessive sheading problems, of course your right they did shead a little, but after cooking the sheading was not very bad.
Whiskey
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12-13-2006, 08:04 PM
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Whis, were you ever able to keep your hands out of the tank for more than five hours? 
You were constantly fooling with that tank.
One thing that tanks with sand beds do, is allow people to fool with them a lot. All that bacteria and bacterial habitat will strip things out of the water column in a hurry.
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12-13-2006, 08:43 PM
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AKA Scooterman
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One more question, did you use keep the exact same corals in the bb as in the DSB? Just wondering if maybe something was poisoning the other! The problem could be a quinki dink or something that was just missed, It would be hard for me to want to change a tank that was so clean but I guess some things we may never truly know.
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12-13-2006, 10:33 PM
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Coral Killer
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Originally Posted by Wiskey
Thanks Reef-Daddy:
I don't understand:
Bag o seafood $10 lasts me for months
What is this? What's in it? Is it just called "Assorted Seafood or something?
5-6 clams $1 whichever are on sale
5-6 Mussels $2
Do they seriousally stock this at a normal store? How would it be packaged?
You'll have to forgive the stupid questions, but I never eat Seafood (Not really my thing) Nor have I ever bought any.
Thanks!
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No prob whisk!
Most stores sell a mixed bag of frozen seafood. The one i've been using includes mussels shrimp squid octopus and I think cod.
The clams and mussels are fresh from the seafood counter. I crack them open and blend them up. I just made a batch tonight, the tank went nuts for it! It may be my best yet.
You shoulda seen the look on my daughters face when I tasted it!
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12-14-2006, 11:16 AM
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Detritus is not a pet
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Originally Posted by King-Kong
so you defrost the mysis/brine, then re-freeze?
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I don't, actually I only defrost when feeding. While I'm making the food it never really gets thawed at all. I make the blend with frozen mysis and when I feed the tank I sometimes add a cube or 2 of thawed mysis.
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12-14-2006, 02:22 PM
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Just some guy, you know?
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Originally Posted by Spanky
Whis, were you ever able to keep your hands out of the tank for more than five hours?
You were constantly fooling with that tank.
One thing that tanks with sand beds do, is allow people to fool with them a lot. All that bacteria and bacterial habitat will strip things out of the water column in a hurry. |
Not really, no. I did mess with it allot, every time another coral would start to STN it put me into "Panic" mode and I changed something else, looking for what I was doing wrong.
Whiskey
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12-14-2006, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by BuckWheat
One more question, did you use keep the exact same corals in the bb as in the DSB? Just wondering if maybe something was poisoning the other! The problem could be a quinki dink or something that was just missed, It would be hard for me to want to change a tank that was so clean but I guess some things we may never truly know.
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Yes, all the corals that servived the BB tank unitl it went DSB got moved into the DSB tank, one in perticular only had one pylop when it moved, it now has many.
The corals that did not servive I am slowly getting back from a friend as I gave him peices of everything I got becuase I didn't want to loose anything compleatly.
Whiskey
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12-14-2006, 02:25 PM
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Eat more PIE
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Wiskey try sitting on your hands  
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12-14-2006, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by REEF-DADDY
No prob whisk!
Most stores sell a mixed bag of frozen seafood. The one i've been using includes mussels shrimp squid octopus and I think cod.
The clams and mussels are fresh from the seafood counter. I crack them open and blend them up. I just made a batch tonight, the tank went nuts for it! It may be my best yet.
You shoulda seen the look on my daughters face when I tasted it!
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Bottoms up!
Right on, thanks for the info, I will give this a try, if it saves me money on fish food I'm all for it.
Thanks!
Whiskey
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12-14-2006, 02:27 PM
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Wiskey try sitting on your hands |
Did that! It only cut blood flow.
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12-15-2006, 02:37 AM
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Shark
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That's kinda interesting-I had colonies that didn't make it, but new frags that did-I currently have one that looks like what Spanky was describing as phosphate wicking. It has a few polyps at the base which are colorful and expand, then a tissue necrosis (or what I believe to be necrosis, as the purple tissue has dissapeared) then perfect coral frag again-with polyp expansion. It hasn't really traveled up or down the frag (the necrosis, I mean) so I'm just watching it presently....but it is interesting 'cause I think this is something I've seen you post about your corals in the BB tank...like any other tank I think the corals have needed time to adjust to their new surroundings-mine came from a sand bed and didn't extend their polyps for a few weeks, they've need a long adjustment period...but now they seem to be back on track again-at least that is what appears to be happening. So if they start growing again-then it was a prolonged adjustment, and if they die, well...hells bells, it wasn't an adjustment period, just calm before the storm |
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12-15-2006, 03:51 PM
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Coral Killer
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Originally Posted by Wiskey
Did that! It only cut blood flow.
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Put $100 in a jar. Take one dollar out anytime you put your hand in your tank, change equipment or adjust anything. Add $ 5 each week you don't touch the tank at all other than feeding. After 6 months buy a coral, or send someone you love $100!
That will keep you honest!
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12-15-2006, 04:59 PM
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What about when coral falls over? In all honisty, I haven't lifted the lid of my tank in way over a month other than to pick up a coral, or right a fallen turbo snail.
I did try running my skimmer a little dryer for a few weeks, decided I hated that and put it back.
Whiskey
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