To anyone who has a problem with Bleaching and STN in their BB tank:

[BuckWheat]

Wiskey did you take yout LR from yout DSB then use it in a BB?

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by REEF-DADDY

Sure my recipe is very similar to those posted already. I don't use as much commercial food as you do/did. If you blend the stuff right you have a wide range of different particle sizes so you won't really need the commercial food. I add the oyster eggs because I have them I won't use them in future blends. I have lots of tangs so I add the broccoli many think its too high in p04. I don't use any flake food unless I am away. After I looked at the ingredients I really ramped up my blender mush program. I feed this 3-4x per day and the squares are 1/4" thick and about 1.5"x1.5". I also feed 1 full sheet of nori per day as well. I actually had to cut back a bit when I stopped using flake I think because this food is so rich!

5-6 clams $1 whichever are on sale
5-6 Mussels $2
Bag o seafood $10 lasts me for months
broccoli (frozen) $2
Bulk Nori from Asian market $7 for like 50 sheets
1 package mysis $6
1 package brine $6
1 teaspoon DT oyster eggs- too much $

I blend the clams and oysters until the look like water. I chop the bag o seafood by hand then lightly blend I like to keep some bigger pieces in the mixture for my large fish. I mix everything and lay it out on a sheet of nori then cover it with another sheet, freeze it, and then cut it into squares.

Thanks Reef-Daddy:

I don't understand:
Bag o seafood $10 lasts me for months
What is this? What's in it? Is it just called "Assorted Seafood or something?


5-6 clams $1 whichever are on sale
5-6 Mussels $2
Do they seriousally stock this at a normal store? How would it be packaged?

You'll have to forgive the stupid questions, but I never eat Seafood (Not really my thing) Nor have I ever bought any.

Thanks!
Whiskey

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by BuckWheat

Wiskey did you take yout LR from yout DSB then use it in a BB?

I cooked it by the rules for 3-4 months first.

Whiskey

[BuckWheat]

Originally Posted by Wiskey

I cooked it by the rules for 3-4 months first.

Whiskey

I cooked rocks over 6 months with Ill effects!

Ever tried bleaching then boiling? Drastic right! When I went from dsb to bb my rocks massively had algae problems, even after cooking, even blowing off the rocks & doing wc's out the wazoo!

I eventually bleached & boiled rocks & the lived happily ever after. I don't recommend this, in most cases rocks should go years & years with no problems but In this case I did it & the outcome was awesome. I know this can be argued, I was until blue but because people say you never should need to cook or boil rocks but I did & would do it again very happily, at least until I find out it has bad long term affects then I will just chew the shoe that is in my mouth in that case LOL

Regardless BB, plenum, DSB, thin bed or whatever, they all can work, it all depends on your husbandry & what your willing to work with.

Oh yea, on a side note! Any food mush etc, I always soak in RO/DI to help remove phosphates, I guess everyone does that but thought I'd mention it.

[Mike O'Brien]

Some say you may die actually cooking live rock. An infamous thread. LOL

I wouldn't recommend doing it in the house.

[BuckWheat]

Nope Mike is right I'd stick to outside, mask & caution when doing this for sure.

[Mike O'Brien]

Have any of you read any of Borneman's analasis of skimmate. He's working on getting samples now to try and identify what the heck skimmate is. So far it look's like it's mostly good food. It's some interesting stuff. He's not trying to get people not to use skimmer's, obviously they keep the water in good condition. But so far with the data it seem's one could more effectively remove the full range particulates with a filter sock and use activated carbon to remove the dissolved organic's. Though he would rather leave the particulates in suspension, and so would I. I never siphon the tank so there is alway's some detritus floating around. When I feed my fish, they end up searching through the piles for the pellet's and stir that into the water. By the ammount of filter feeder's thriving in the tank, I know they are loving it. I could probably feed a non photosynthetic coral with that alone.

[BuckWheat]

I do use a Micron Filter sock every so often to polish off the tank when cleaning, also carbon 24/7 but not so much that the tank is sterile, skimmers are for the time in between & when something happens when I'm not around!

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by Mike O'Brien

Some say you may die actually cooking live rock. An infamous thread. LOL

I wouldn't recommend doing it in the house.

Did you know I was the first person to reply to that post? I copied and paisted ShawnT's directions for cooking live rock.

Whiskey

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by Mike O'Brien

Have any of you read any of Borneman's analasis of skimmate. He's working on getting samples now to try and identify what the heck skimmate is. So far it look's like it's mostly good food. It's some interesting stuff. He's not trying to get people not to use skimmer's, obviously they keep the water in good condition. But so far with the data it seem's one could more effectively remove the full range particulates with a filter sock and use activated carbon to remove the dissolved organic's. Though he would rather leave the particulates in suspension, and so would I. I never siphon the tank so there is alway's some detritus floating around. When I feed my fish, they end up searching through the piles for the pellet's and stir that into the water. By the ammount of filter feeder's thriving in the tank, I know they are loving it. I could probably feed a non photosynthetic coral with that alone.

This sounds really interesting,... Do you have a link?

Whiskey

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by BuckWheat

I cooked rocks over 6 months with Ill effects!

Ever tried bleaching then boiling? Drastic right! When I went from dsb to bb my rocks massively had algae problems, even after cooking, even blowing off the rocks & doing wc's out the wazoo!

I eventually bleached & boiled rocks & the lived happily ever after. I don't recommend this, in most cases rocks should go years & years with no problems but In this case I did it & the outcome was awesome. I know this can be argued, I was until blue but because people say you never should need to cook or boil rocks but I did & would do it again very happily, at least until I find out it has bad long term affects then I will just chew the shoe that is in my mouth in that case LOL

Regardless BB, plenum, DSB, thin bed or whatever, they all can work, it all depends on your husbandry & what your willing to work with.

Oh yea, on a side note! Any food mush etc, I always soak in RO/DI to help remove phosphates, I guess everyone does that but thought I'd mention it.

That's going to the extream!!! I never had any algae, never had detectable phosphate, and did not have problems with rock sheading though,...

Whiskey

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by BuckWheat

I do use a Micron Filter sock every so often to polish off the tank when cleaning, also carbon 24/7 but not so much that the tank is sterile, skimmers are for the time in between & when something happens when I'm not around!

I don't run a sock at all, never did, I wonder if I should have???

Whiskey

[Mike O'Brien]

http://forum.marinedepot.com/Topic52254-9-1.aspx

Here ya go.

[Mike O'Brien]

Originally Posted by Wiskey

Did you know I was the first person to reply to that post? I copied and paisted ShawnT's directions for cooking live rock.

Whiskey

Yeah, I remember the whole thing well. Good thing too, since you can't view it anymore.

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by Mike O'Brien

http://forum.marinedepot.com/Topic52254-9-1.aspx

Here ya go.

Thanks! Off to read.

Whiskey