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Old 12-11-2006, 08:10 PM   #31
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For those who believe in being precise to the nearest grain of sand...
You know how important it is to be precise If I only could have copied and pasted from the caculator that number would have been much better,....

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Old 12-11-2006, 08:12 PM   #32
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Wiskey, hurry up! I want to see how it works out with your setup!
Hehe, It's not even on the top of the list anymore, everyone is posting here .

In that thread I mention that I have been foiled already,.. a little different but it will still be a valad experiment.

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Old 12-11-2006, 08:16 PM   #33
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One week I put over $125 worth of food into that tank in a single week,... it was the only time I ever made that tank take a turn for the better.

It is not financially possible for me to feed that much, plus when I did it I had a week off, and literally fed every hour. That is not possible either, normally I work 10-14 hour days. Plus if you have to feed that much something is very wrong IMO.

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$125 were you feeding caviar? My tank is happy with the frozen bag o' seafood at the grocery store!
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Old 12-11-2006, 08:18 PM   #34
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Hey! Your thread said you haven't updated since the 4th!!

I thought you said:
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More in my thread, (new green and blue Formosa )

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Old 12-11-2006, 08:20 PM   #35
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$125 were you feeding caviar? My tank is happy with the frozen bag o' seafood at the grocery store!
It's not hard to do at all.

Misys (lots of this) Blenerized misys with cyclopeaze, oyster eggs, zoo plancton, other meaty foods, that nori stuff they have at the LFS, flake food, flake food blended with misys,...

I'm telling you, I was DUMPING food in. The amount of Cyclopeaze I went through that week was a little over $50, I spent at least $45 on mysis that week, accually, come to think of it, I bet it was more than $125,....

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Do you make your own food? If so do you mind sharing the recipe? Are they things I can get at the local Safeway?

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Old 12-11-2006, 09:23 PM   #37
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Here's my recipe:

The ingredients + food processor


Most expensive ingredient salmon (High on Omega 3 )


That nori you buy at the LFS would get me 3 of these (Same thing)


Pic of final product, It has Pieces of all sizes for everybody in the tank from my Harlequin Tusk to corals. One thing I add and it's not pictured here is 2 tablets of Vitamin C for the fishes.



I make a batch that lasts me about 1.5 mos. Pretty much a gallon sized Ziplock bag, just thaw a piece in a plastic cup and feed away.

1/4 of a bag frozen raw seafood
1/2 dollar sized piece of cyclopeeze bar
3-4 cubes of Formula 1
3-4 cubes of Formula 2
Chunk of Salmon
1 ripped Sheet of Sushi nori
2 Vitamin C pulverized tablets
3-4 cubes of frozen mysis & Spirulina enriched Brine shrimp

I don't use phyto or anything else, some do I just don't see the need. HTH buddy.
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Old 12-11-2006, 11:25 PM   #38
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I just get several shrimp, clams, oysters (they hold stuff together), maybe a piece of salmon and some nori and blend it together. I have little trays from the seaweed stuff I bought and freeze it into flat chunks. Often if you go in early the seafood department will have scraps they will give you. It's funny to go to the store and ask for 6 shrimp, 2 oysters, clams ect...
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Old 12-12-2006, 09:19 PM   #39
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Whiskey, just curious, did you ever drop your skimmer from wet skimming to a drier skimmate while doing the BB tank? I know you played around with the feeding and lights, I imagine the skimmer too, but did you?
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Old 12-13-2006, 01:11 AM   #40
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Well I think I solved the bleaching problem. The top frag was purchased saturday and shows no sign of bleaching, usually it would only take a couple of days. The bottom one is a new one i just purchased today. Feed more and less light. Will post more pics around sunday.
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Do you make your own food? If so do you mind sharing the recipe? Are they things I can get at the local Safeway?

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Sure my recipe is very similar to those posted already. I don't use as much commercial food as you do/did. If you blend the stuff right you have a wide range of different particle sizes so you won't really need the commercial food. I add the oyster eggs because I have them I won't use them in future blends. I have lots of tangs so I add the broccoli many think its too high in p04. I don't use any flake food unless I am away. After I looked at the ingredients I really ramped up my blender mush program. I feed this 3-4x per day and the squares are 1/4" thick and about 1.5"x1.5". I also feed 1 full sheet of nori per day as well. I actually had to cut back a bit when I stopped using flake I think because this food is so rich!

5-6 clams $1 whichever are on sale
5-6 Mussels $2
Bag o seafood $10 lasts me for months
broccoli (frozen) $2
Bulk Nori from Asian market $7 for like 50 sheets
1 package mysis $6
1 package brine $6
1 teaspoon DT oyster eggs- too much $

I blend the clams and oysters until the look like water. I chop the bag o seafood by hand then lightly blend I like to keep some bigger pieces in the mixture for my large fish. I mix everything and lay it out on a sheet of nori then cover it with another sheet, freeze it, and then cut it into squares.
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so you defrost the mysis/brine, then re-freeze?
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Great suggestions on DIY foods all! Thanks

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so you defrost the mysis/brine, then re-freeze?

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Whiskey, just curious, did you ever drop your skimmer from wet skimming to a drier skimmate while doing the BB tank? I know you played around with the feeding and lights, I imagine the skimmer too, but did you?
Yes, but not seriousally enough maybe. At one point I set it so my skimmer was making about a cup (like the cooking type cup) a day, but started to have to clean the glass more often than I was used to and turned it back up again worried about P04.

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