Genx PCX 55 + bullet 2?

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by ereefic

I've had an MR-1, MR-2, MR-6 Recir. and a CR-1. All are quality acrylic, none have leaked and all have fine glue joints and never had a problem with any of them. 2 friends have PM skimmers, and although i've never inspected them, they appeared to be of the same quality. If MRC wasn't around, i'd go with PM.

So you prefer MRC over PM, I assume due to the options available?

I am happy to hear you have had extended sucess with MRC products, it is good to know you are happy with them enough to buy more. I was getting worried!

Thanks,
Whiskey

[Wiskey]

Reef-daddy, why did you decide to go with the PM bullet 3 over the MRC MR-3

Thanks,
Whiskey

[NoSchwag]

Dude it doesn't matter which one you get.. Close your eyes and point. Just run it wet and you'll be good.

The MRC air valve is better, that's all.

[REEF-DADDY]

Originally Posted by Wiskey

Reef-daddy, why did you decide to go with the PM bullet 3 over the MRC MR-3

Thanks,
Whiskey

I like the fact that the riser has no reduction, I really liked the new PM injector, but like Swaggie said the air valve is a ball valve which is NG. I was not really interested in any options second injector, quick disconnect, ozone(although the PM does have an ozone port). If I ever decide I need more skimmer I'll buy a bigger pump and drive it harder. After seeing Swaggies MR-2 I would be just as happy with an MR-3 or 4 I am sure.

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by NoSchwag

Dude it doesn't matter which one you get.. Close your eyes and point. Just run it wet and you'll be good.

The MRC air valve is better, that's all.

Well I guess that perty much ends that doesn't it?

Thanks,
Whiskey

[redwinger]

Originally Posted by Wiskey

Well I guess that perty much ends that doesn't it?

Thanks,
Whiskey

Or you could go with a recirculating needle wheel, set it forget it and no need to tweak it.

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by redwinger

Or you could go with a recirculating needle wheel, set it forget it and no need to tweak it.

I could,... but I don't want to take any chances. The last skimmer I bought was a recirculating needle wheel, rated for 250 gallons thinking "Now I will never need to replace my skimmer again", GUESS WHAT?

I keep thinking, "there has to be a reason that most of the people running long term sucessfull algae free BB tanks are using beckett skimmers".

Thanks,
Whiskey

[redwinger]

Personally I am trying to find a comparable beckett that someone is not using to run side by side against the needle wheel to see what pulls more. Then seperate the salt and water from it to see which one is trully pulling more gunk. I have my suspicions but I would sure like to confirm it.

[redwinger]

The reason you don't see many recirc needlewheels on bb tank is that they are fairly new to the market in comparison to a beckett. And if your rocks are leaking water soluble PO4 your skimmer is not going to get it IMO (correct me if I am wrong here Sean) Dilltution from a water change or phosban is what is going to help with that. Hence the reason for cooking your rocks. I have had no major problems with algae except bryopsis about 8-9 months ago which I in turn attribute to the rocks never being cooked and then right now with the brown wafer algae that is not a high nutrient driven algae. By no means is it at alarming status just gives me a excuse to do what should have been done originally.

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by redwinger

The reason you don't see many recirc needlewheels on bb tank is that they are fairly new to the market in comparison to a beckett. And if your rocks are leaking water soluble PO4 your skimmer is not going to get it IMO (correct me if I am wrong here Sean) Dilltution from a water change or phosban is what is going to help with that. Hence the reason for cooking your rocks. I have had no major problems with algae except bryopsis about 8-9 months ago which I in turn attribute to the rocks never being cooked and then right now with the brown wafer algae that is not a high nutrient driven algae. By no means is it at alarming status just gives me a excuse to do what should have been done originally.

You are correct, your skimmer can't take out water soluable P, but bacteria take that up very quickly and the skimmer can take out the bacteria .

Whiskey

[redwinger]

Originally Posted by Wiskey

but bacteria take that up very quickly and the skimmer can take out the bacteria .

Whiskey

I think you meant something different there right? Why would you want your bacteria out of the tank?

[Wiskey]

I ment just that. You don't take all the bacteria out, just the stuff floating around in the water.

Whiskey

[redwinger]

Your comment still has me lost. Are you saying that the needlewheels are to efficient? And pull out to much stuff?

[Wiskey]

Originally Posted by redwinger

Your comment still has me lost. Are you saying that the needlewheels are to efficient? And pull out to much stuff?

No, no, nothing of the sort. I was just explaining one of the avenues that phospate is exported from your system via a skimmer (any skimmer even a seaclone ).

This was in responce to you saying this:

And if your rocks are leaking water soluble PO4 your skimmer is not going to get it IMO

Whiskey

[redwinger]

Whiskey the theory with the skimmer is to take the stuff out before it breaks down into nitrates and PO4 same reason you siphon. IMO