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06-20-2006, 12:59 PM
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here is a-little experiment i decided too try , even with the disapproval from spanks  ! but we know he doesn't read this forum often , so i should be safe !!!  . i decided that the best part of live rock was is ability to de - nitrify , but that comes with a cost . there are many other organisms wanted or un-wanted that lives on it also , so while this idea is nothing new i thought i would give it a try . how about a bacteria rock ! so what i did was buy some of the ceramic bio-media put it in a large opening mesh bag and woo-la bacteria rock . now one thing that spanks convayed is the problem of loading , but since i use filter socks i don't feel that this will be a problem . we will see  ! 
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06-20-2006, 01:38 PM
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Eat more PIE
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Are you concerned about Nitrate build up?
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06-20-2006, 01:52 PM
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not really , but at the same time it won't hurt to have it go lower !  even with all the live rock it came in at around 5 p.p.m. , so now that it has dropped back down i feel better about the transition .
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06-20-2006, 04:47 PM
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[quote=gwaco]! but we know he doesn't read this forum often , so i should be safe !!! .[quote]
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I just called John, he said he would be more than happy to slap you for me.
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06-20-2006, 05:02 PM
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But your ceramic bio rings are not going to denitrify, they are in an arobic envryoment.
Did I miss something?
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06-20-2006, 05:11 PM
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[quote=Spanky][quote=gwaco]! but we know he doesn't read this forum often , so i should be safe !!! .
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dang ! where did you come from  ! john can be bought !
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06-20-2006, 06:33 PM
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Here we go  
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06-20-2006, 09:03 PM
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spanks , no luck on that purple thing-a-majiggy your looking for  ? john says your driving him nuts about it !
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06-20-2006, 10:05 PM
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I'm driving me nuts about it too.
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06-21-2006, 11:46 AM
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Gwaco, I don't get what your doing. Are you placing the ceramic media in the sump? Isn't it going to do the same thing as the rock?
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06-21-2006, 07:37 PM
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Gwaco, I don't get what your doing. Are you placing the ceramic media in the sump? Isn't it going to do the same thing as the rock?
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in a nut shell yes ,its just something i wanted to experiment with . my mind says think of l.r. without all the added bio load , just bacteria . don't know if it will work , but what the hey ! i'm just trying to eliminate as many potential leaching areas as possible . my ideas have been termed " store display look " !
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06-23-2006, 08:49 AM
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Here's what I would guess would happen.
Initially as bacteria colonize the rings you would have a net reduction in N compounds (ammonium) and P compounds (ortho phosphates). Then when they have no where else to go with it, they will leak.
Also the rings in the sump will act like rock, filter fluff, GAC, etc in the sump - a mechanical filter. Which will load the rings and make them a detritus trap.
not good.
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06-23-2006, 09:57 PM
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c.a.g. owner and operator
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geez mister spanky ! you have to ruin all the fun ! we never get to do anything ! next you will be telling me my super secret , supercharged , super deluxe , super colossal ,superfluous , superlative, barebottom skimmer design won't work  ! wait i haven't thrown that one out there yet !
by the way i will be going for my *itch slapping this weekend  , where john and i can talk in great length why you don't think his idea will work ! wait it wasn't his idea ! it was mine , all , mine ! i'm dooooomed ! 
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06-25-2006, 09:54 PM
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07-02-2006, 04:17 PM
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Very nice is this on a ORA style plug?
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