Cynarina and candycanes in high flow?

[Reefyone]

Does anybody keeps such inflated corals as cynarina or candycanes in BB tanks, with a hight flow, capable to keep detrius suspended and removed? I have and impression that they don't appreciate high flow.
Thanks.

[Twitterbait]

it really depends on which ones you get. i have seen good and bad from all of the major ones. placement is key.

[APFish]

I would agree about placement. I have them in both of my BB and they love it. Come to think of it I don't place anything directly in the flow. I think that keeping the motion of the tank up really moves everything around and keeps the needed nutrients stirred up. I had a problem with a tank that syphoned down on me one night. The candy cane took a big hit. Since then I have fragged several pieces off to try and save what I could and everything is absolutly flourishing.

Rob

[Loverotties]

Originally Posted by Twitterbait

it really depends on which ones you get. i have seen good and bad from all of the major ones. placement is key.

[Reefyone]

The tank would be relatively small - 20g long, 12" wide. Not much options for a placement of 7"+ coral.

I'm trying to go another way, and creating the tank, suitable for them (and this have to be not another 90g tank, no place and can't afford, really).

BB tank requires high flow to keep detrius suspended AND filtered away; and the relatively low flow, good for these corals, doesn't allow this.

P.S. Sorry for delay - instant notification doesn't work.

[APFish]

So would you consider this candy cane and plate "inflated"corals? Mine seem to love it. I feel that high flow doesn't have to be direct flow. Just keep everything in suspension. I am no expert at any of this, these are just what i have found to be true.



This was the candy cane that was damaged in the siphon. I have taken off some areas that were damaged and actually I think it looks better now than before the incident.

Rob

[Twitterbait]

looks good. your right on flow. BB just needs to keep the crud in suspension so it goes down to the skimmer. you don't have to peel paint with it.

[Leonardo's Reef]

I keep my fungia (also a calm water coral) in a place with less flow. First weeks were hard, after that it got used to higher flow.

Leonardo

[Reefyone]

Can you add some decription on the flow distribution and gph from each source of flow, please? Pointed or diffused or rotating?

APFish: seems that we have the same kind of candycane. Here is mine at beginning, low light, relatively high flow (150gph, halfway down the tank). Bought damaged, as you can see, Aug 23:

A month later - not much better:

The best shot in the same conditions, Oct3:

And here - days after moving to the high light, low flow, Oct17:

Survived tank crash very well, here it is in similar conditions, Dec 9:

Has much larger mass to Dec 19:


If you will frag yours ever, may be worth to try the weakest frag in other conditions and compare? Just curious.

Here is cynarina, in higher flow:

In lower flow:



Scolymia - in higher flow (also bought damaged - bleached and small):

Later, in lower flow and relatively high light:

[Twitterbait]

if you can diffuse the flow (using a seio) then you can usually go higher. that is the best option for LPS IME. even better is to use diffused flow and then bounce it off of a wall in the tank before it hits the corals.

[APFish]

I have my return pump, 1500 gph connected to a spray bar on the botoom of the tank. My two SEIO's are rated at 1100 each and they are placed in the upper rear corners pointed towards the center front. Next, I have MJ 1200 to keep the spray bar itself clean. My skimmer runs on a Quit One 4000. I believe that once you add everything up and then do some deductions for head height and bends in the plumbing I am over 3000 gph.
I believe my system to be the best for my corals and other inhabitants. If I wasn't getting the results that I wanted I would have returned to the toilet/sand system. I looked over your profile. Have you every truely switched over to bare bottom w/o canister filters and the like? I would really try to get to that point. I was in your same spot a couple of years ago and sold everything to get a sump, pump, and skimmer. Best thing that I ever did. My water has never been clearer, I have never received the growth that I have now. My lighting seems to be brighter, could be the different bulbs. I will never do a sand bottom again. There are plenty of people that run this system on this site and are better than I am. No one here wants to get into the debate over DSB, SSB, or BB.

Rob

[Reefyone]

Good ideas, will try. Thanks!

Rob, all my tanks now are BB, only one with canister filter - this tank houses the large messy fish.

But: already ordered Sequence Dart (3000 gph) for 90g, to use it for intermittent high-flow filtration through micron sock, as was done here. Didn't figured out, how to make flow diffusion for and undrilled tank with two pumps - low flow permanent and high flow, that will work time from time. Separate spraybars or several outflows? At the top or at different levels, back only or the front too?

Stll have the same problem, as with inflated LPS: my fish is slow moving and dislikes high flow (lionfish, tassle filefish, mandarin), which just drags them -even 300 gph is enough to do that.

The tank with sand is no longer exist, it's content is now in two BB tanks. Thinking about putting them together again, only without sand.

The problem there is the very large LPS - 7" scolymia, 5.5" cynarina and 4"+ symphillia are too big, and I don't know what will be better - to keep them separately, as now, in shallow container with a large footprint, or make a common reef tank, 20g long, that is only 12" wide. Same tank, as on photos in profile - they were there.
With shallow tank - easy access, more light.
With 1 tank instead of 2 - less water testing, and maintain only one water quality. Could be more aesthetical, than translucent Rubbermaid, too.