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07-06-2007, 11:25 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Oregon
Posts: 20
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calc/alk dosing
I know that BB systems don't have as high of a calc/alk demand, so I'm wondering what most of you are doing for this? 2-part? Kalk? 2-part + kalk? anyone use a ca reactor, and do you notice phosphate issues? Thanks! 
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07-06-2007, 12:27 PM
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spaceman spiff
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: south of Dimples
Posts: 7,103
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Don't know about phosphate issues with calcium reactor, havent heard anything about that.
I use a calcium reactor and kalkwasser reactor to maintain relatively consistent levels of calc and alk. I find it's nice not to have to bother dosing. |
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07-06-2007, 01:39 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Gainesville, FL
Posts: 317
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I only use Kalk, and am able to maintain Ca and Alk at high levels.
Spanky is the one who regularly mentions phosphate showing up from Ca reactor usage.
But I dont know if he doses anything regularly.. I believe he enjoys the theory of, "test water once every few months, toss in some baked baking soda".
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07-06-2007, 07:17 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: KS
Posts: 198
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are you saying you don't need to add calcium or alk, like reef builder or reef advantage calcium, if you dose with a kalk reactor?
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07-06-2007, 07:24 PM
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Carpe Noctem
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Western Colorado
Posts: 5,064
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Yes and no 
You still need to bring waterchanges up to par, but kalk aids in a balanced ca and alk addition. But you need to watch the pH and some other things and bump when necessary. Or at least I do  Others may have completely different strategies.
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07-06-2007, 07:44 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: KS
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i've got a 135 newly BB with sps frags, trying to figure out the fine tuning of additives and reactors or 2 parts myself....not to hijack the thread....just want to learn too...
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07-06-2007, 07:50 PM
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Carpe Noctem
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Western Colorado
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Well I'm likely the oddball in this thread as I enjoy the BB philosophy, but hate the looks of it So I'm in a little different club than the BB people, but not a DSB or SSB guy either
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07-06-2007, 09:07 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Gainesville, FL
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As hop says, Kalk adds both Alk and Ca. I add kalkwasser through my topoff via a Kalkwasser reactor. I have it hooked up to a pH monitor that will turn it off if pH gets too high (this has never happened).
Oh, and I dont dose anything else.
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07-06-2007, 09:49 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Oregon
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with that huge clam and those massive colonies that's really impressive!
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07-07-2007, 03:00 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Florida
Posts: 90
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I read that you should only get phosphates form our CR if you are using CR Media that contains sea shells, as they themselves can release the phsophates.
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07-08-2007, 07:34 AM
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Big C*ck
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Waterbury, Ct
Posts: 172
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Kalk on a litermeter is my choice.
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07-12-2007, 05:56 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Oregon
Posts: 20
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in case anyone was interested, if you use a CA reactor it seems carib ARM is the way to go for media:
http://www.advancedaquarist.com/issu...2003/short.htm
but you are introducing phosphates with a CA reactor. whether or not 2 ppm is significant I don't know. |
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08-21-2007, 07:28 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: newyork
Posts: 90
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I never use Kalk but i dose Randys 2 part in my 120 BB cube with a reefdosing pump daily ALK/CAL are great.
Michael
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08-21-2007, 08:37 PM
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It can be rebuilt.
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Pittsboro, NC
Posts: 19,158
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i also do not dose anything in my system. i have a kalk reactor for top off and that is it. i also use the horribly low Ca IO salt for my system. 
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08-21-2007, 09:20 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: spartanburg, south carolina
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I wonder how much phosphate is added to the system with reactor media? And how does that compare to the phosphate added with a single feeding for the fish? Spanky, where are you?
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меня зовут Chris 
