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03-29-2007, 08:28 PM
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Little Fishy
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Location: Lake Crystal, MN
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Benefits of Barebotom over sand?
What are the benefits and non-benefits of oing barebottom?
Thanks
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03-30-2007, 08:40 AM
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It can be rebuilt.
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you can have huge amounts of flow if the tank is BB.
you are not feeding a huge bacterial mass known as the sand bed.
things can be corrected very quickly without sand. 100% water changes are possible.
less light needed.
less supplimentation needed.
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04-16-2007, 09:30 PM
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Little Fishy
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Anything else?
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04-16-2007, 09:31 PM
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how about the negatives?
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04-16-2007, 09:33 PM
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Milkshake Man
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Originally Posted by JY13131
how about the negatives?
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I didnt know there was any 
Other than you have the look of a BB tank not the pretty sand.
Like Geof said they are just easier to keep clean. They dont require as much work IMO as a sand bottom tank
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04-16-2007, 10:14 PM
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how about the negatives?
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Negatives are that quite a few fish are not an option.
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04-17-2007, 04:23 AM
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Milkshake Man
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Originally Posted by Fly Guy
Negatives are that quite a few fish are not an option.
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That also  I forgot about that seeing i have no fish 
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04-17-2007, 11:27 AM
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Professor Chaos
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BB is the best, that is all i can say!
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04-17-2007, 11:29 AM
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Another pro is corals are cooler than fish anyways!
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04-17-2007, 11:30 AM
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Shark
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And what twitter said.
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04-17-2007, 11:30 AM
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04-17-2007, 12:40 PM
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I thought you could have MORE fish with BB? The extra flow and strong skimming allows for heavier feeding but also more efficient removal of wastes. Wasn't there a thread about how bleached corals looked in a BB tank if you don't feed the tank enough?
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04-17-2007, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by hng
I thought you could have MORE fish with BB? The extra flow and strong skimming allows for heavier feeding but also more efficient removal of wastes. Wasn't there a thread about how bleached corals looked in a BB tank if you don't feed the tank enough?
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you can......its your TYPES of fish that are limited to some extent 
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04-17-2007, 01:11 PM
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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you can......its your TYPES of fish that are limited to some extent |
 I'm confused, what types can't you keep? I'm planning on clownfish, tang, anthelias, etc for my 90 gal bb tank. Are they OK? Are you just pulling my leg?
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04-17-2007, 01:17 PM
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I'm confused, what types can't you keep? I'm planning on clownfish, tang, anthelias, etc for my 90 gal bb tank. Are they OK? Are you just pulling my leg? |
For instance.....MANY sand sifting gobies and the like are out. Anything that relies solely on live pods or sand for food is generally out. Many wrasses are out. Most all cirrhilabrus(sp) are fine. Thats just to name a few. There are many more. There are a lot of exceptions and success cases even within what i described of course, but extra coinsiderations need taken into account for many types of fish if you choose not to have a substrate.
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Last edited by Fly Guy; 04-17-2007 at 01:28 PM.
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