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Old 02-10-2006, 10:12 PM   #1
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Allow me to introduce myself.


Hello, my name is Sean. Last name begins with a "T", hence SeanT.
I am a clever boy.

I have been keeping reef tanks now for just about 5 years.
And it has been a haarrd 5 years.
I have managed to nuke my tanks in every which way possible, and I have learned a LOT from it.
Some of the time I won't be able to tell you what to do, but I sure will be able to tell you some things NOT to do.

Over the last few years I have migrated my philosophies on reefkeeping.
For the first several years I was all about the natural reefkeeping way.
I was a HUGE advocate of DSB's (in fact years ago I argued against Jerel about BB systems - I have since learned the error of my statements through application...the best way), large maccro algae filled refugiums and as little equipment as possible.
Now...not so much.

I highly doubt you will ever see me "slam" DSB's, or those that proponent and/or implement them, as a matter of course. I may debate their merits, but openly trashing them for no reason is not my style.

In fact, I feel that in some circumstances they may be the way to go.
But in my circumstances, here and now, I do not feel that way.

For the type of corals I keep, SPS-LPS-Ricordia-Zo's, they don't seem to care in the least about substrate. They in fact, thrive to new heights.
I have Ricordia spreading across my barebottom (I need to see a Dermatologist about that and get a cream I think).

I also believe that equipment, the right equipment (though not completely necessary to keep corals alive) is instrumental in helping our tanks thrive and take some of the heartache out of the hobby and put it in the wallet.

In this forum I would love to discuss all sections of running Barebottom tanks with you, and for you to discuss them by yourselves of course.

To me, the bullet points of running BB systems are just about the same as systems with substrates:
1. Substrate removal how to's.
2. What to put on the bottom.
3. Live rock.
4. Rock "cooking".
5. Arranging rock and rock racks.
6. Flow, in general and under the rockwork.
7. Skimming.
8. Lighting.
9. UV and Ozone.
10. Calcium and Alkalinity schemes.
11. Clean up crew.
12. Maintenace - what to do, how to do, new and innovative ideas.
13. And more...

Running a BB tank is almost identical to a non-BB tank, but instead of expecting the system to process everything, we limit its ability
(by having no sink) and pitch in through manual removal of detritus.

I welcome everyone to participate, BB and "cooking" advocates and opponents.
Through the free flow of ideas we can all learn.

Thanks for reading and everybody play nice,
Sean
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Old 02-10-2006, 11:37 PM   #2
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Might want to get with Greg and see if we can get some of the applicable Think Tank threads copied over here, this has been the friendly place to talk about bb's for a couple years, so a lot of info has been building up there. It will be good to get some discussions going, I know that in my neck of the woods the format is growing rapidly.

Welcome, your expertise and experience will prove to be invaluable ehre I am sure.
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Old 02-10-2006, 11:44 PM   #3
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Great idea thanks.
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Old 02-10-2006, 11:51 PM   #4
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Hey Sean!

Bare bottom here too, since my 3rd reef tank 12 years ago...things have definitely changed since my first humble beginnings from Undergravel filters with Crushed coral rubble to just Crushed coral to SSB to DSB to Crushed Coral+Oolitic to Mud, and now finally Bare bottom!

It's been definitely been a ride, and I think I have found my niche!

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Old 02-10-2006, 11:57 PM   #5
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Hi Merv,
Glad to see you are over here as well.
Finally a peaceful home to discuss and hone our techniques.
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Old 02-11-2006, 07:53 AM   #6
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Whats up SEANT. I am SteveDohoney "elsewhere". Finally a forum dedicated to barebottom husbandry! Great idea!
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Old 02-11-2006, 09:48 AM   #7
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Great to have you here Steve.
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Old 02-11-2006, 10:54 AM   #8
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Glad I got the invite. I became a TRT member back in June but never posted since the board seemed fairly small. I'm 110% on board now though

I have my 120 BB and I love it: http://reefs.elephen.com/pics/categories.php?cat_id=2

Those are some pictures of my work in progress
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Old 02-11-2006, 11:34 AM   #9
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Great to see you over here SeanT in a brand spankin' new BB forum! It will be nice to have a place to discuss the method without continually butting heads with folks who are more interested in argument than enlightenment

Y'all know me as PUGroyale elsewhere... you'll just have to get used to the new moniker over here and on a few other boards Rest assured I won't have any more SN's so if you see PUG/Liquid... it's me Dave :~)

[as for other monikers... what's up Spanky? Post sometime soon man!!! You're missed...]

I've been in the hobby for just over 2 years. Like a lot of us, my interests in reefkeeping evolved rather quickly from softies, zoo's, and LPS to a serious addiction to SPS Nothing is quite as interesting, beautiful, and confounding as keeping the stonies...

Most you know a little about my BB history... I tried to take a really heavily stocked 46g tank with CC to barebottom without a lot of the help and instruction that's now more available. It wasn't a success. I currently run my system with sand but follow a lot of the BB methodology to keep build up at a minimum. Unlike some folks who use a given method and feel compelled to defend it as if it's the only way... I enjoy learning about all methods. As much as many have tried, I've never seen anyone able to punch any holes in Bombers [and others] logic. So if I can join the discussions over here and offer any of my experience or input... I'm glad to be of service

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"...punch wholes in Bombers [and others] logic."

What a good statement...

BTW I'm also known as Elephen on RC and AcroMatt & Elephen on FishHeads.org (local Kansas City forum if anybody is here).
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Old 02-11-2006, 08:23 PM   #11
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Hey Sean, you know who I am. And yes, I have a barebottom.

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Old 02-11-2006, 08:30 PM   #12
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Hey! When did you become a moderator Sean? I just noticed it!
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Old 02-11-2006, 09:29 PM   #13
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Hey Zac,
I think Pimperator is more accurate.
Yesterday was the day.
You got to come down again before you head up to cold town.
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Old 02-13-2006, 05:52 PM   #14
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I am looking forward to walking hand and hand into the fire with you
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Old 02-13-2006, 08:27 PM   #15
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Seant, Glad to see you here. It is great to have a forum like this to talk about this and so people understand how to do it and be succesfull.
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