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02-19-2006, 05:03 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Apopka, FL
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120 BB...would like input.
So, I am getting a 120g AGA RR tank in the coming days. I have dual BlueLine 40's for the returns, I like redundancy. A EuroReef RS8-2 skimmer in a 40g acrylic sump. I will be running Dual Tunze 6100's as the main flow through the tank. I have dual 250W 14K halides running on Eballasts and dual VHO 46.5" 90w actinics.
I plan to get some starboard and I will also be building a rack for my rock to sit on once the tank gets here.
Do you have any suggestions for me?
Mike
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58g Oceanic RR
20g Glass Sump
ASM G1X Skimmer
Quiet One 5000
36" Oceanlight 2x250W 10K HQI's & 2x39W T5 Actinics
AquaMedic Top-Off
Tunze 6060
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02-19-2006, 05:06 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Apopka, FL
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Oh yeah, and I have a RODI unit that runs to a 20g container which I fill up every week. In this container, I run Kalkwasser for the auto top-off of my tank to keep alk and calcium levels up.
Mike
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58g Oceanic RR
20g Glass Sump
ASM G1X Skimmer
Quiet One 5000
36" Oceanlight 2x250W 10K HQI's & 2x39W T5 Actinics
AquaMedic Top-Off
Tunze 6060
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02-19-2006, 05:32 PM
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The Ninja MOD
Join Date: Mar 2004
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How will the Tunze be situated? The reason I ask is that raising the rock is great but youll want flow under it to push the detritus where you can remove it. The best way is with a sprasy bar. You can drill for it (best) or do an over the back set up.
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02-19-2006, 06:03 PM
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big tang
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Kansas City
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I would go with the 36" VHO atinics since the tank is only 48" long, if you have a canopy they may not fit (depending on how you build it).
I have the same setup minus the Tunze's and sump size. I run a Sequence Dart on 1 closed loop with 4 1" outputs and then a Pan World 150-PS (pressure rated) pump powering 2 eductors on another closed loop.
I have a pre-order in on 2 of the new VorTech pumps and they'll be placed at the 2 ends of the tank blowing towards each other.
Let me tell you what, those eductors move some water, about 3500gph with those only.
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02-19-2006, 06:05 PM
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Is it gonna rain today?
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Ft. Lauderdale, FL
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Originally Posted by MacnReef
... I have dual BlueLine 40's for the returns, I like redundancy... I will be running Dual Tunze 6100's as the main flow through the tank...
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On a multicontroller, I hope? With magnet holders?
Set the multicontroller on Interval 1, and have the streams oriented so they create a whirlpool in the tank. Counterclockwise flow for a few minutes, then clockwise flow for a few minutes, and so on.
Also, if the Blueline pump you’re referring to is the 40 HD (pressure rated), rather than the 40X HD (non-pressure-rated), you can put a single eductor on each pump’s return. Then the flow will really be cranking. You won’t have to worry about spraybars with a couple of eductors and a couple of Tunze 6100s (even if only one Tunze is operating at any given time, as it would on a multicontroller on Interval 1). Nothing but the heaviest rocks will stay on the bottom of the tank.
On the pump returns, I prefer up and over, rather than drilled. Gives maximum flexibility to alter the flow pattern in the future, if needed.
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02-19-2006, 06:34 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Apopka, FL
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Oh yeah, putting penductors on outlets of Bluelines.
Not drilling the tank though and don't want to mess with a closed loop system on this tank.
The Tunzes will be in the back center pointed towards the front corners, set on tidal mode.
Mike
Thanks for the help guys.
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58g Oceanic RR
20g Glass Sump
ASM G1X Skimmer
Quiet One 5000
36" Oceanlight 2x250W 10K HQI's & 2x39W T5 Actinics
AquaMedic Top-Off
Tunze 6060
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02-20-2006, 07:39 AM
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big tang
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Kansas City
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Yeah on my setup I regret drilling =\
I'm probably going to end up plugging the bulkheads with a male plug and then removing that. I'll plumb my Dart over the top then.
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02-20-2006, 08:07 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Apopka, FL
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Elephen...actually I am using the 46.5" VHO's, those usually fit. So I will see when I get the canopy.
weatherman...Yes, 7095 multicontroller but I am not sure about the magnets. I was gonna run tidal mode but I will play with the Tunzes to see what gives the best flow. Yep, its the pressure pumps!
elephen...I just don't want to mess with drilling and I don't like to see a lot of plumbing in the tank so I won't be doing the "up and over" trick either. But I am hoping the Tunze's with the dual bluelines with penductors will be enough.
Mike
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58g Oceanic RR
20g Glass Sump
ASM G1X Skimmer
Quiet One 5000
36" Oceanlight 2x250W 10K HQI's & 2x39W T5 Actinics
AquaMedic Top-Off
Tunze 6060
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02-20-2006, 09:49 AM
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big tang
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Kansas City
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Can't wait to see a build blog 
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02-20-2006, 11:23 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Apopka, FL
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I can't wait to pick up the tank next week!
Mike
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58g Oceanic RR
20g Glass Sump
ASM G1X Skimmer
Quiet One 5000
36" Oceanlight 2x250W 10K HQI's & 2x39W T5 Actinics
AquaMedic Top-Off
Tunze 6060
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02-20-2006, 11:27 AM
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big tang
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Kansas City
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If you don't mind me asking how much are you paying for the tank, or are you buying and stand and all with the tank?
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02-20-2006, 11:45 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Apopka, FL
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Well, I am actually getting the tank, stand, canopy, sump, blueline 40HD's, dual Eballasts, reflectors and 14K bulbs for $1200. But I traded a smaller sump, mag drive 12 and a EuroReef RS5-2, so now I only owe hime $965. But I cancelled my order for OM 4Way and Dart which was $550, so I am putting that towards it, I am selling a light that was going over a smaller tank for $350. Plus I have some smaller stuff for sale so it should be about even.
Then I ordered my Dual Tunzes which will be here this week.
Will a 25w UV be enough for that tank?
Mike
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58g Oceanic RR
20g Glass Sump
ASM G1X Skimmer
Quiet One 5000
36" Oceanlight 2x250W 10K HQI's & 2x39W T5 Actinics
AquaMedic Top-Off
Tunze 6060
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02-20-2006, 12:28 PM
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big tang
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Kansas City
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I would go with no less than a 36w high output UV unit, anything less won't do much. I run a 40w HO UV and it does a bang up job.
Funny you live in Apopka, I've spent quite a bit of time there, I lived in Sanford for a year and a half and dated a girl that lives in Apopka... Small world 
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02-20-2006, 12:58 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Apopka, FL
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It is a small world. I went out with a girl from Sanford once! Those Sanford girls are pretty trashy though!!
Anyway, I will look into a larger UV.
Mike
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58g Oceanic RR
20g Glass Sump
ASM G1X Skimmer
Quiet One 5000
36" Oceanlight 2x250W 10K HQI's & 2x39W T5 Actinics
AquaMedic Top-Off
Tunze 6060
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02-20-2006, 02:10 PM
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big tang
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Kansas City
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It is a small world... I sent you a PM.
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