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09-24-2003, 05:32 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Manila, Philippines
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mutilated pearlscale butterfly
This really upset me. I put in a pearlscale butterfly 2 days ago and I noticed some bruising on his dorsal fin and upper body a day after. It was still pretty strong and ther are no predators in my tank. I moved it to my quarantine athis morning and found it dead when I came home in the afternoon. The bruising had escalated to something that looks like a shark bite which took out at least a centimeter square chunk out of the upper part of his body! Bones where still intact. Seems like the scales and meat just rotted away. It couldnt have been a predator because I took out all my damsels before putting in the butterfly. I also discovered my blenny dead a few minutes ago. I strongly suspect my water is not yet fully cycled (4 wks. since I put in LR). I'm getting a test kit this wk (they are quite expensive here) to check my water conditions. My perculas are ok. So is my mandarin, banded eel and hatchet fish. Could nitrates do this kind of damage to a butterfly?
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09-24-2003, 05:52 AM
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Eat more PIE
Join Date: Mar 2002
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no Nitrates probably not you might have something that hitchiked in on the live rock check it good for a crab or something and yes a teat kit is a must in this hobby.
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09-24-2003, 06:00 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Manila, Philippines
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could it be the banded eel? I don't think it's anything in my tank because most of the damage happened in my quarantine where it was all alone. ssems like my water "burned" his body. Acidic water maybe?
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09-24-2003, 06:05 AM
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Eat more PIE
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well if a chunk was biten out like you said I would suspect something in the tank eel is a possibility,you need the test kiyt to determine the water quality,I hope you are using ro or ro/di water.
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09-24-2003, 06:44 AM
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Administrator
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Check for ammonia and nitrite
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09-25-2003, 10:15 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Manila, Philippines
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Positive on the RO/DI water. We have a monster unit servicing our entire household and our supply comes from a 40ft. deepwell pump. keeping my tank fishless for the meanwhile. Maturation period is on its 4th week.
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09-25-2003, 11:25 AM
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Little fish in a big pond
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Was the bruise red? Could it have been a bacterial infection?
Vibrio can act VERY fast.
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09-26-2003, 12:45 AM
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Plankton
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Manila, Philippines
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yes! it was blood red! is it something in my water? What can I do? Hopw come not all of my fish were infected?
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09-26-2003, 06:15 AM
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Eat more PIE
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I still think it was biten and developed a Bacterial secondary infection.
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09-26-2003, 07:11 AM
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Big Fishy
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Re: mutilated pearlscale butterfly
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Originally posted by bikethief
. I strongly suspect my water is not yet fully cycled (4 wks. since I put in LR). I'm getting a test kit this wk (they are quite expensive here) to check my water conditions. My perculas are ok. So is my mandarin, banded eel and hatchet fish. Could nitrates do this kind of damage to a butterfly?
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If I am reading this right.....this is a new tank only set up 4 weeks? The tank is fishless now?
Last edited by sally; 09-26-2003 at 07:35 AM.
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09-26-2003, 10:10 AM
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If it is 4 weeks old nothing should have been added until a test kit had been purchased and water tested,to insure the health of the creatures.
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09-26-2003, 11:56 AM
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Sounds like a classic case of Vibrio to me. 
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09-27-2003, 01:06 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Manila, Philippines
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Anybody have any info on vibrio? Counter measures perhaps? Tank is fishless for the time being. Snails, shrimp , and my banded eel are doing well though.
I don't believe my eel could have inflicted that "bite." Never shown any agressive tendencies towards tankmates. Beak is too small and primarily eats algae and pellets.
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09-27-2003, 01:28 PM
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Nothing to See Here
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Loganville Ga.
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new live rock.....mantis
listen for clicking
If it is vibrio check this out http://www.aquarium.net/1197/1197_5.shtml
Last edited by Mafiaman; 09-27-2003 at 01:30 PM.
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