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08-08-2002, 05:54 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Appleton, WI
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Coral Color Change
I purchased a Pagonda Cup about 6 months ago. At the time it was a bright yellow. Over time it's color has changed to more green than yellow. I have M/H lighting. My guess is that this is due to the lighting and the algae. Can someone help me understand this process better?
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08-08-2002, 07:08 PM
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Thread Killer
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Southern California
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Mine did that too. I think someone mentioned once that they were dyed but its hard to say. Not helpful by any means but just sharing what I know. I do hear that they tend to change colors no matter what. Mine is a green/gold color. Its almost a year old in my tank now.
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08-09-2002, 02:58 PM
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Jesus freak!
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Valley Springs, CA
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I sent a pic of my yellow pagoda to Anthony Calvo and he said it was definately a dyed animal...prognosis not good. I have mine under 275w PCs and it has started turning more brown...The polyps all stand up nicely, and all so I think things are good.
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08-09-2002, 04:56 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Appleton, WI
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jjharrisx4 - your picture looks just like mine did when I brought it home. So, you think it was dyed? That's disapointing. Other than the color change mine seems healthy enough.
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08-09-2002, 05:49 PM
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Good boy
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Marietta, GA, USA
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I think that the coral is dyed too. I've seen these in some LFS and even the owners admitted that they thought they were dyed.
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08-12-2002, 02:37 PM
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Jesus freak!
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Valley Springs, CA
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Yep...it's dyed. Mine is turning more brownish on the top surface, and it's losing the yellow tint underneath. I'm hoping it's not deteriorating underneath...the polyps look great, and it grabs bits of food so I'll keep my fingers crossed.
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08-12-2002, 08:38 PM
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Klingon
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: Forest Grove, OR
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Hi was just in upscales in taulatin and they have a beautiful yellow pogonda cup, wonder if it was dyed, almost bought it but purchased a couple of frags instead.
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08-12-2002, 09:34 PM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Portland,Or
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It is relatively common for scrolls and pagodas to be dyed bright..bright.. yellow. The most common color morph for these corals is green/brown. All the yellow dyed pigment will be gone over 4-6 months...if the coral survives. If the coral is uniformly yellow ( polyps and the field), then it is most likely dyed. However, these corals do exist with bright yellow naturally incorporated within them. Here's a pic of my scroll that has yellow edges and polyps on a brown field.
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08-13-2002, 01:26 AM
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TRT Staff The Mominator
Join Date: Jan 1999
Location: Just South Of Seattle
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I have no idea why wholesalers would sell dyed corals. Most of the time the LFS doesn't see the corals they are ordering so I don't understand the reasoning, especially when it tends to just tick off the LFS who gets one in their shipment.
Keep feeding it, make sure it has enough current going over it so that detritus doesn't collect in it and cause necrosis. I hope it does well.
Steve, beautiful scroll 
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08-13-2002, 09:48 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Appleton, WI
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I've learned a valuable lession. I thought my LFS was reputable. Based on the feedback here, it appears to be pretty common knowledge that these types of corals are frequently dyed and most certainly are if they are a very bright yellow. They either know or should have known what they were selling me and warned me of such. At least mine has turned out healthly after the dye disappeared. Thank God for the Reef Tank.
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08-13-2002, 10:21 AM
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Little Fishy
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Portland,Or
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Alice, You're correct when you say that the LFS don't see the corals that they order; however, the wholesalers know that the color brown is the kiss of death. If a LFS gets a shipment of brown; that LFS will try to find another source. The wholesalers are under market pressure to supply color...even if it comes in a bottle. There is always going to be the uniformed individual that will fall for the dyed coral....but will never fall for a brown coral (as is evident by this thread). This gives the dyed corals some value to both the wholesaler and the LFS. The LFS can feign ignorance while still moving the inventory,the wholesaler keeps a client, and the end user is the loser. The only way to keep dyed corals from the marketplace is through education, thus making a dyed coral less marketable than a brown coral. So, Mike S, don't feel bad...we've all been where you are...but, only once.
Last edited by steveweast; 08-13-2002 at 10:28 AM.
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08-13-2002, 03:47 PM
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Plankton
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Milwaukee, WI
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I've had this turbinaria for about two years.
This is what it looked like on 10/2000
10/2000
and the attached pic is from May of this year. I don't doubt that they are dying corals, but don't jump to conclusions too fast yours might not be dyed.
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